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  • M. Sage

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    Just a heads-up, kind of a warning for y'all here. Be careful which groups you give support to. Some are effective, others just like to collect money, and yet others are Trojan horse groups that are actually run by anti-gunners and are trying to split our movement. Divide and conquer, and I've seen it work against us.

    I'm going to remind you really quick that now isn't the time for a divided front. Now is the time to dig our heels in and say "no more!", no matter how much the other side asks us to be "reasonable" and to "compromise" or how small the infringement may seem at the moment. Our civil rights are at stake here, this is important. Likewise, there is no real and honest conversation about how much more to surrender. Again, these are civil rights, and it's madness to discuss trading them away for some false sense of security.

    What's happening is that fake groups are being formed and pushed as representing us. This has a few effects, mostly that media and politicians can get all moist and say "look, gun owners do support infringements" and that it will fool some among us, causing them to throw others under the bus. I've seen the hunters throw black rifle folks under the bus, and the collectors throw the HD/concealed handgun owners under the bus. Thankfully, every shooter in Texas seems to like all guns, so that doesn't seem to be a huge danger here. ;)

    Back in '05, a "group" was started by Brady supporters called the "American Hunters and Shooters Association". Thankfully, they seem to have finally thrown in the towel. That was my first experience with this kind of attack, but we all know gun control advocates are great at simply beating their heads against the same wall over and over, thinking that it'll work this time for sure.

    Of course, a new group (Facebook page at that link; it doesn't seem this guy has a website even) has popped up on the radar. All the same hallmarks are there. They try to talk the talk, but if you listen close you'll notice they're actually antigun, and they spend more of their time talking down legitimate and effective organizations and people than they do anything else.

    The moral of the story here is be careful who you support. Read between the lines and try to get to know who's really behind the group. If it's some group run by anonymous people (ARA posts are signed "Gary B." from Houston), it's probably a troll. If they are putting their names out there, Google their names to see what they're associated with. That's how we found out about AHSA back in '05. Real pro-gun advocates will not hide behind an anonymous front - we're in it lives, fortunes and sacred honor. Real pro-gun advocates won't have names associated with organizing and/or participation in anti-gun groups.
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    General Zod

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    Checked the ARA page out. They are very carefully vague about what it is they stand for, which should be a major red flag. They also use a lot of liberal newspeak terms regarding the "gun lobby" and the evil gun manufacturers...yeah I figure they're a sham.
     

    M. Sage

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    Checked the ARA page out. They are very carefully vague about what it is they stand for, which should be a major red flag. They also use a lot of liberal newspeak terms regarding the "gun lobby" and the evil gun manufacturers...yeah I figure they're a sham.

    The only organization I support is the NRA. Most of those Facebook only organizations are all talk.

    Both are accurate and correct.
     

    London

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    And here we see the caliber of their supporters. This is either the dumbest internet exchange I've seen between two gun owners (and that says a LOT), or these are two agent provocateurs.
     

    UncleSamsMisguidedChild

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    Funny I just tried to post asking them to prove the fact that they are pro-2a because I suspect them of being another American Hunters and Shooter's Association. It didn't post, or possibly get approved.... We'll see
     

    London

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    Funny I just tried to post asking them to prove the fact that they are pro-2a because I suspect them of being another American Hunters and Shooter's Association. It didn't post, or possibly get approved.... We'll see

    I flat out called them frauds and gave a link to this thread. Mine still hasn't popped up yet either.
     

    V-Tach

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    From the site.....

    The investigation team has just begun to scratch the surface of the false attack group Firearms Policy Coalition. Who are they, really? Like the NRA, GOA and NAGR they ask for money at every turn. Why do they propose to be for gun owners when in fact are backed by and carrying water for GUN INDUSTRY BUSINESSES?

    Looks like another dishonest "Attack" shill group doing the "Special Interests" work while misleading understandably concerned citizens for their own profit.

    Open debate and solutions have been our trademark, groups like this want to use intimidation and suppression tactics because they have no answers except, "NO" and "Donate".

    Absolutely not a friend to gun owners. Thanks for the heads up......
     
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