Bill of Sale definitely DEAD.

[Renegade]

What actually incriminates someone is them doing something criminal. Obey the law, no need to be paranoid about a bill of sale.

No, folks commit crimes all the time and are not caught.

Evidence of a crime incriminates criminals and written records signed by the defendant are very persuasive to juries.

 

[Glenn B]

No, folks commit crimes all the time and are not caught.

Evidence of a crime incriminates criminals and written records signed by the defendant are very persuasive to juries.

Yes such written evidence of a crime that has been committed is persuasive - so thanks you just made my point. Do not commit a crime in the first place, then there will be no evidence of a crime, at least unless there is a miscarriage of justice. So as i said, in sum & substance, had the person not committed a crime - no problem. So why would someone have a problem with a bill of sale if that person did not commit a crime relative to a bill of sale?

 

[alternative]

Yes such written evidence of a crime that has been committed is persuasive - so thanks you just made my point. Do not commit a crime in the first place, then there will be no evidence of a crime, at least unless there is a miscarriage of justice. So as i said, in sum & substance, had the person not committed a crime - no problem. So why would someone have a problem with a bill of sale if that person did not commit a crime relative to a bill of sale?

The point is that a BOS may be used against you to show that you committed a crime under new regulations that the ATF is pushing. If you sell a gun with even a one cent profit you may be committing a crime unless you are a FFL.
This is just another Biden administration attack on gun owners to make honest people into criminals. Of course you can sell guns at a loss all day I guess. My dad's Python cost I believe $170 so I guess I can sell it for $169 and not be committing a crime. Not for sale guys.

 

[BigRed]

ATF needs to be dissolved.

 

[Glenn B]

That was to easy

 

[BigRed]

What actually incriminates someone is them doing something criminal. Obey the law, no need to be paranoid about a bill of sale.

Hardly.... and not by a long shot.

Amazon product ASIN 1594035229

 

[vmax]

What's yalls favorite leftovers from Thanksgiving?
Gotta be ham here..and deviled eggs

 

[Renegade]

Yes such written evidence of a crime that has been committed is persuasive - so thanks you just made my point. Do not commit a crime in the first place, then there will be no evidence of a crime, at least unless there is a miscarriage of justice. So as i said, in sum & substance, had the person not committed a crime - no problem. So why would someone have a problem with a bill of sale if that person did not commit a crime relative to a bill of sale?

How do you know you did not a committ a crime when you bought/sold that gun and did a BOS?

Do you even know all the possible crimes that come into play? No nobody does not even DOJ. Hence why they have a research team to see what they can apply.

When you did the deal, did you check you were not within 1000 ft of a school? Did you check to make sure the gun was legal? The buyer legal? Do you even know all the things that can make the deal illegal? Do you know if 922r applies?

Are FRTs legal today? Bump stocks? Braces? 80% receivers. Regs are changing at a rapid pace nobody can really keep up.

Law abiding gun owners are getting charged with obscure gun crimes every day.

 

[TxStetson]

What's yalls favorite leftovers from Thanksgiving?
Gotta be ham here..and deviled eggs

I’ve seen left over ham, but never seen leftover deviled eggs.

 

[V-Tach]

What's yalls favorite leftovers from Thanksgiving?
Gotta be ham here..and deviled eggs

Wait.........you got deviled eggs? Damn it..............

 

[Whistler]

Y'all think up all the ways you can to document firearm ownership, I'm sure the ATF appreciates the help.
If they hang them all they get the guilty but remember they'll hang you too.

 

[Steve In Texas]

The deviled eggs at Thanksgiving dinner earlier tonight were amazing. I mixed a bit of Green Chile in several for some extra spice. The cooks mentioned nothing about bills of consumption or proof of adulteration.

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

What's yalls favorite leftovers from Thanksgiving?
Gotta be ham here..and deviled eggs

Turkey, stuffing, whatever else...all to be sandwiched between two pieces of toast and a thick schmear of mayo.

 

[Hoji]

Yes such written evidence of a crime that has been committed is persuasive - so thanks you just made my point. Do not commit a crime in the first place, then there will be no evidence of a crime, at least unless there is a miscarriage of justice. So as i said, in sum & substance, had the person not committed a crime - no problem. So why would someone have a problem with a bill of sale if that person did not commit a crime relative to a bill of sale?

Oxygen depravation. You should get your head out of…… the sand get some 21% in you.

 

[vmax]

Turkey, stuffing, whatever else...all to be sandwiched between two pieces of toast and a thick schmear of mayo.

I'm a mustard guy when it comes to leftover ham sandwiches

 

[vmax]

Wait.........you got deviled eggs? Damn it..............

Wife made a double size tray of them yesterday...I can't get my fill.

 

[Moonpie]

We did things a bit different yesterday.
Had fried shrimp and oysters.

 

[benenglish]

I'm a mustard guy when it comes to leftover ham sandwiches

I like hot ham steaks with mustard and grape jam on the side. Alternate the two condiments. Absolute heaven.

And a BOS for a private sale is ill-advised, IMO, based on the arguments I've read on this board over the last decade.

 

[popsgarland]

Y'all had left overs?

 

[TipBledsoe]

I'm a mustard guy when it comes to leftover ham sandwiches

^ Yes + Swiss cheese!