Blue Dot and 45ACP

[Kayt00]

I've got a pound of blue dot, its older powder in a cardboard container with the Hercules logo still and I need to load up some 45acp with it. Unfortunately I can't find any load data for it. Anybody have a recipe or maybe wanna trade lb for lb for something more suitable to the task.

 

[Kayt00]

A quick Google search turned up personal loads using 8.5 - 10 grains but I'm hesitant because I can't seem to find ANYTHING in print.

 

[Mills]

There’s plenty of load data out there, hot stuff .
Blue dot is not for moderate loads as it will leave unburnt powder.

 

[Mills]

A quick Google search turned up personal loads using 8.5 - 10 grains but I'm hesitant because I can't seem to find ANYTHING in print.

Alliant publishes load of 10grs, that should wake you up .

 

[Kayt00]

There’s plenty of load data out there, hot stuff .
Blue dot is not for moderate loads as it will leave unburnt powder.

Similar to Universal I assume? I'm good with hot, it'll be run in a Ruger P90.

 

[Kayt00]

Alliant publishes load of 10grs, that should wake you up .

That was for a 200 grain pill wasn't it? I'm topping off with a 230 JHP soooo...8-8.5 grains?

 

[Mills]

P90, built like russian tank.
Alliant does not show 230 load for the blue.

 

[Kayt00]

P90, built like russian tank.
Alliant does not show 230 load for the blue.

That's why I was thinking of dropping to 8-8.5 grains for a starter.

 

[Txmark]

I happen to have an old Alliant manual.

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[Kayt00]

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Beautiful! Exactly what I was looking for.

 

[TipBledsoe]

I happen to have an old Alliant manual.

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My old eyes thinks that table says 9.8 grains of blue dot for 230 grain JHP. That's surely an absolute maximum load. IMO, I wouldn't begin going beyond 8.5 grains, and see how it goes from there.

 

[Kayt00]

My old eyes thinks that table says 9.8 grains of blue dot for 230 grain JHP. That's surely an absolute maximum load. IMO, I wouldn't begin going beyond 8.5 grains, and see how it goes from there.

I don't disagree with you and everything that I've read says that just about any load using this powder in an auto is going to be spicy. I'm fine with that...I'll likely drop it to 9 and see where I'm at. I'm also thinking that case capacity may become an issue as well but we'll see.

 

[lonestardiver]

It is a flake powder so it doesn’t meter as well.

 

[Kayt00]

It is a flake powder so it doesn’t meter as well.

Yeah, I popped the can open last night for a look see. I'll play with it and see how it does.

 

[ghostrider45]

I've used in the past in 45ACP, but its less than ideal. Its a relatively slow powder that seems to prefer higher pressure cartridges (357 mag, 9mm), so you might see unburnt powder.

powder burn rate chart:
https://loaddata.com/articles/PDF/Powder Burn Rate Chart2.pdf

 

[Kayt00]

I've used in the past in 45ACP, but its less than ideal. Its a relatively slow powder that seems to prefer higher pressure cartridges (357 mag, 9mm), so you might see unburnt powder.

powder burn rate chart:
https://loaddata.com/articles/PDF/Powder Burn Rate Chart2.pdf

I'm loading these up as a favor for a friend using his components, his brass, powder, projectiles and primers. I'm almost wondering if I should donate some of my stash to make decent rounds?

 

[Ozzman]

230-grain FMJ?

9.4 grains.

Thank me later.

 

[Kayt00]

230-grain FMJ?

9.4 grains.

Thank me later.

230 grain HP, unsure of the make...they don't look like XTP's.

 

[deemus]

Never used Blue Dot in 45 ACP. But it’s a great powder for 44 mag.