Bought a 26" collapsable police style baton with holster today

[Texan2]

That post has so much fail my head actually hurts

Lmao...

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[majormadmax]

I dunno, I smacked my teenage son with one of these once and it didn't really have much of an affect on him! Of course, it was against his head...

 

[majormadmax]

My "Option 2" to my carry gun is another carry gun. Batons, pepper spray, tasers are not really alternatives in my book...

 

[CachookinLA]

OC spray is not effective on someone high or drunk. The drugs cause some. Hemical, perhaps endorphins, to block the pain. The other problem with a baton is the training required. It is a flexible option in your arsenal, but do you have the training to use it? Do you know how to counter other weapons, blades, machetes, sticks, bottles, guns, other batons, ad nauseaum, with it?

 

[ZX9RCAM]

OC spray is not effective on someone high or drunk. The drugs cause some. Hemical, perhaps endorphins, to block the pain. The other problem with a baton is the training required. It is a flexible option in your arsenal, but do you have the training to use it? Do you know how to counter other weapons, blades, machetes, sticks, bottles, guns, other batons, ad nauseaum, with it?

Sorry, I would not bring a baton to a knife or gun fight, lol.....

 

[txinvestigator]

OC spray is not effective on someone high or drunk

Really? ever sprayed a drunk? I have, and it worked fine for me, each time.

 

[Texan2]

Pepper spray is pain compliance. TASER is muscular disruption. Spray works great...IF you can hit them in the face and IF they arent on something that interferes with their ability to feel pain (LSD, bath salts). Pepper spray works great on 90% or so of the population. Check out this video. Guy on left has been sprayed and look how long he still fights. Guy on right is TASERed.
TASER - Police Cops Taser vs Pepper Spray - YouTube

 

[Bithabus]

Really? ever sprayed a drunk? I have, and it worked fine for me, each time.

Me too.

 

[stalker19]

I always prefer having a knife in a gunfight.

As far as legality of batons, double edged knives.... or whatever. The simple fact is I'm not going to end up one of those idiots in a youtube video arguing with a handful of cops about how I'm right before I'm rolled up and hauled off to jail.

There are plenty of tools around in any environment. Not to mention the ones you were born with.

I'd rather genuinely know what I'm doing above tool selection.

A feeder with the will to kill will defeat a timid prey almost every time, regardless of the tools available to either. Ever see the video of the dude who Ginsu'd the shit out of several guys with guns before finally being shot? How about a dash cam vid of an unarmed criminal whoopin' that ass though the cop has a belt full of tools?

As TXinvestigator said.... my head hurts.

Training and mindset.

Training and mindset.

Training and mindset.

Repeat.

 

[SIG_Fiend]

I always prefer having a knife in a gunfight.

As far as legality of batons, double edged knives.... or whatever. The simple fact is I'm not going to end up one of those idiots in a youtube video arguing with a handful of cops about how I'm right before I'm rolled up and hauled off to jail.

There are plenty of tools around in any environment. Not to mention the ones you were born with.

I'd rather genuinely know what I'm doing above tool selection.

A feeder with the will to kill will defeat a timid prey almost every time, regardless of the tools available to either. Ever see the video of the dude who Ginsu'd the shit out of several guys with guns before finally being shot? How about a dash cam vid of an unarmed criminal whoopin' that ass though the cop has a belt full of tools?

As TXinvestigator said.... my head hurts.

Training and mindset.

Training and mindset.

Training and mindset.

Repeat.

Read it and heed it people. We can debate this on the internet all day, but Joe speaks the truth. I don't think a lot of people here will understand the "feeder" concept Joe, though I do.