Carry by firefighters

[pampatreas]

I understood that a new bill was filed in Texas allowing firefighters (including volunteer) the same carry rights as law enforcement, but I am unable to find it anywhere. Any help out there?

 

[txinvestigator]

I understood that a new bill was filed in Texas allowing firefighters (including volunteer) the same carry rights as law enforcement, but I am unable to find it anywhere. Any help out there?

"The same carry rights" will never happen. I imagine IF a bill was filed, it includes limited carry authroization.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

In my Dept. we're not even allowed to bring a firearm into the station other than Fire Marshals. We can leave them in our vehicles but the city accepts no responsibility of our personal vehicles nor their contents. On one hand I kind of like the idea of having the option to carry on duty but on the other there could some serious issues evolve from such.

 

[txinvestigator]

In my Dept. we're not even allowed to bring a firearm into the station other than Fire Marshals. We can leave them in our vehicles but the city accepts no responsibility of our personal vehicles nor their contents. On one hand I kind of like the idea of having the option to carry on duty but on the other there could some serious issues evolve from such.

Legally you can carry on duty with a CHL. Having to disarm if entering a 30.06 or statutorily off limits place would be a pain.

 

[n2pistols]

With all the clothing and equipment fire fighters carry in the line of duty I wonder where they would carry their weapon. However as first responders in this dangerous world maybe they should be armed.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

IDK, our city/Dept. SOP's, rules and regs clearly state that we are not allowed to carry a firearm on duty or even have a firearm inside a fire station. There are disciplinary actions that can/have been in place and enforced for failure to comply.

 

[Shooter McGavin]

With all the clothing and equipment fire fighters carry in the line of duty I wonder where they would carry their weapon. However as first responders in this dangerous world maybe they should be armed.

We could just put it in our EMS bag....

 

[Texanjoker]

I understood that a new bill was filed in Texas allowing firefighters (including volunteer) the same carry rights as law enforcement, but I am unable to find it anywhere. Any help out there?

Why would a volunteer or regular FD need the same carry rights as a LEO?

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Why would a volunteer or regular FD need the same carry rights as a LEO?

Why should a LEO have carry rights no one else has? Including Joe Shmoe law abiding citizen.

 

[jordanmills]

Legally you can carry on duty with a CHL. Having to disarm if entering a 30.06 or statutorily off limits place would be a pain.

Be interesting if they did it, and didn't enter a properly posted structure... And it burned down because of that. Lawl.

 

[jordanmills]

Why should a LEO have carry rights no one else has? Including Joe Shmoe law abiding citizen.

Because some animals are more equal than others.

 

[Texanjoker]

Why should a LEO have carry rights no one else has? Including Joe Shmoe law abiding citizen.

Probably something to do with being a commissioned peace officer. There is training; a requirement to act in some cases, a requirement to carry off duty in some places and the laws that currently exist. Get the laws changed if you want to be able to carry everywhere. I am personally for CHL's.

 

[jordanmills]

Probably something to do with being a commissioned peace officer. There is training; a requirement to act in some cases, a requirement to carry off duty in some places and the laws that currently exist. Get the laws changed if you want to be able to carry everywhere. I am personally for CHL's.

Like those jokers in LAPD who shot up two old women in a pickup truck yesterday, for no reason other than that they were in a pickup truck like a suspect in some unknown area of the county? Yeah, they have more and better training... sure thing.

 

[txinvestigator]

IDK, our city/Dept. SOP's, rules and regs clearly state that we are not allowed to carry a firearm on duty or even have a firearm inside a fire station. There are disciplinary actions that can/have been in place and enforced for failure to comply.

Most agencies do......

 

[txinvestigator]

Why should a LEO have carry rights no one else has? Including Joe Shmoe law abiding citizen.

Because society calls on him to take on crimes and bad guys that you can simply avoid or run away from. There is an expectation from society that they place themselves in farms way. We require special training and responsibility from them.

 

[txinvestigator]

Like those jokers in LAPD who shot up two old women in a pickup truck yesterday, for no reason other than that they were in a pickup truck like a suspect in some unknown area of the county? Yeah, they have more and better training... sure thing.

Really? You have facts or "media reports"? I have read and heard reports too.

Easy to judge after the fact and from the safety of your couch.

 

[35Remington]

Because society calls on him to take on crimes and bad guys that you can simply avoid or run away from. There is an expectation from society that they place themselves in farms way. We require special training and responsibility from them.

Gotta watch out for those farms. They'll get ya.

 

[smtimelevi]

Because society calls on him to take on crimes and bad guys that you can simply avoid or run away from. There is an expectation from society that they place themselves in farms way. We require special training and responsibility from them.

The nature and expectations of a police officer and the duties they are required to perform shouldn't mean that normal citizens aren't allowed to carry a defensive arm in certain locations. No Joe Blow tax payer isnt required to operate like a police officer, he or she isnt required to place themselves in harms way. On the other hand police arent responsible for individual citizens safety.

 

[Bithabus]

Because society calls on him to take on crimes and bad guys that you can simply avoid or run away from. There is an expectation from society that they place themselves in farms way. We require special training and responsibility from them.

Everyone should have the same carry rights, regardless of this. The life of Joe citizen is not less valuable than the life of someone who is employed as a Peace Officer.

 

[Bithabus]

I understood that a new bill was filed in Texas allowing firefighters (including volunteer) the same carry rights as law enforcement, but I am unable to find it anywhere. Any help out there?

No such bill has been filed.