Ebola is here.....

[JohnnyLoco]

Wasn't aware if that, I apologize for the other remark.

Figure there are two possible scenarios.

1: the CDC is actually that stupid and we better hope they find someone with a brain or there will be many unneeded deaths.

Or 2: Patient 2 wasn't completely clear about who she was or the contact she had had with patient zero.

In either case, patient two doesn't make sense. Who, after being in direct contact with and caring for an Ebola patient, doesn't go straight back in to the hospital to be tested again if they even sneeze funny?

This woman was running a light fever and ignored it, then decided to fly back while running a fever of 103? She must be a complete moron!

As I said before, I believe she should face criminal negligence charges should anyone she came in to contact with begin showing symptoms.

I think you are getting it now.

All of the preventive measures for Ebola transmission are mitigated by our stupid government and stupid people who have been in contact with people with Ebola.

 

[winchster]

This disease has never been present in a population that is densely concentrated and highly mobile.

Just sayin....

 

[rushthezeppelin]

As an example of someone who at least appears to be part of this cult of eugenics I give you one of our own Texans. Dr Eric Pianka LiveLeak.com - Scientist calls for death to humanity

Just to be fair to him I'll even offer up his rebuttal The Controversy over Pianka's Speech

Even though he denies welcoming an Ebola plague with open arms, he doesn't seem to have any qualms with 90% of the human race being wiped out and neither did most of the audience at his speech.

 

[Sushi]

My o' my has the plot thickened. It appears that the story of "Ebola Preparation" procedures that were spewed from Tom Friedens mouth a few weeks ago is vastly different from the nurses and staff on the ground.

Story:

The nation's largest nurses' union spoke out allegedly on behalf of nurses at a Dallas hospital who claimed that a haphazard and sloppy care system was maintained during the treatment of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die of the Ebola virus in America last week.

RoseAnne DeMoro, executive director of Nurses United, said the statement came from "several" and "a few" nurses, but she refused repeated inquiries to state how many. She said the organization vetted the claims, and that the nurses cited were in a position to know what had occurred at the hospital.

The National Nurses United does not represent the nursing staff at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, and did not identify any nurses making the alleged claims.

According to the statement released Tuesday by the union, the nurses alleged Duncan was left in an open area of the hospital's emergency room for hours and that nurses worked for days without protective gear.

The nurses' allegations came two days after a nurse at Texas Health Presbyterian, 26-year-old Nina Pham, tested positive for the virus and entered treatment at the hospital. She is listed as being in stable condition. Pham was one of over 70 staffers who cared for Duncan during his illness and who are being monitored for possible infection. A second nurse, Amber Vinson, who was also treating Duncan, has since tested positive for the virus.

Deborah Burger of National Nurses United claimed that the nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient whose symptoms included explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting.

Wendell Watson, a Presbyterian spokesman, did not respond to specific claims by the nurses but said the hospital has not received similar complaints.

"Patient and employee safety is our greatest priority and we take compliance very seriously," he said in a statement. "We have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment, including mandatory annual training and a 24/7 hotline and other mechanisms that allow for anonymous reporting."

He said the hospital would "review and respond to any concerns raised by our nurses and all employees."

Among the other allegations raised by the nurses in the statement are that Duncan's lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital's pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system. The nurses also alleged that hazardous waste was allowed to pile up to the ceiling.

The statement also claimed that Duncan was initially kept in a non-isolated area of the hospital's emergency room for several hours before being moved. Patients who were exposed to him were allegedly only kept in isolation for a day before being moved to be with other patients. In the same vein, the nurses claim that they were made to treat other patients while also treating Duncan, and were offered no more than an optional seminar to deal with changing guidelines.

"There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system," Burger said.

Even today, Burger said, some hospital staff at the Dallas hospital do not have proper equipment to handle the outbreak.

"Hospital managers have assured nurses that proper equipment has been ordered but it has not arrived yet," she said.

The statement said nurses had to "interact with Mr. Duncan with whatever protective equipment was available," even as he produced "a lot of contagious fluids." Duncan's medical records, which his family shared with The Associated Press, underscore some of those concerns.

Almost 12 hours after he arrived in the emergency room by ambulance, his hospital chart says Duncan "continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting." He was feverish and in pain.

When Ebola was suspected but unconfirmed, a doctor wrote "using the disposable shoe covers should also be considered." At that point, by all protocols, those shoe covers should have been mandatory to prevent anyone from tracking contagious body fluids around the hospital.

A few days later, however, entries in the hospital charts suggest that protection was improving.

"RN entered room in Tyvek suits, triple gloves, triple boots, and respirator cap in place," wrote a nurse.

The Presbyterian nurses are not represented by Nurses United or any other union. DeMoro and Burger said the nurses claimed they had been warned by the hospital not to speak to the media or they would be fired. They did not specify whether the nurses making the claims were among Duncan's caregivers.

The AP has attempted since last week to contact dozens of individuals involved in Duncan's care. Those who responded to reporters' inquiries have so far been unwilling to speak.

David R. Wright, deputy regional administrator for the U.S. Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, which monitors patient safety and has the authority to withhold federal funding, said his agency is going to want to get all of the information the nurses provided.

"We can't talk about whether we're going to investigate or not, but we'd be interested in hearing that information," he said.

CDC officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

 

[rushthezeppelin]

My o' my has the plot thickened. It appears that the story of "Ebola Preparation" procedures that were spewed from Tom Friedens mouth a few weeks ago is vastly different from the nurses and staff on the ground.

Story:

The nation's largest nurses' union spoke out allegedly on behalf of nurses at a Dallas hospital who claimed that a haphazard and sloppy care system was maintained during the treatment of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first person to die of the Ebola virus in America last week.

RoseAnne DeMoro, executive director of Nurses United, said the statement came from "several" and "a few" nurses, but she refused repeated inquiries to state how many. She said the organization vetted the claims, and that the nurses cited were in a position to know what had occurred at the hospital.

The National Nurses United does not represent the nursing staff at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, and did not identify any nurses making the alleged claims.

According to the statement released Tuesday by the union, the nurses alleged Duncan was left in an open area of the hospital's emergency room for hours and that nurses worked for days without protective gear.

The nurses' allegations came two days after a nurse at Texas Health Presbyterian, 26-year-old Nina Pham, tested positive for the virus and entered treatment at the hospital. She is listed as being in stable condition. Pham was one of over 70 staffers who cared for Duncan during his illness and who are being monitored for possible infection. A second nurse, Amber Vinson, who was also treating Duncan, has since tested positive for the virus.

Deborah Burger of National Nurses United claimed that the nurses were forced to use medical tape to secure openings in their garments, worried that their necks and heads were exposed as they cared for a patient whose symptoms included explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting.

Wendell Watson, a Presbyterian spokesman, did not respond to specific claims by the nurses but said the hospital has not received similar complaints.

"Patient and employee safety is our greatest priority and we take compliance very seriously," he said in a statement. "We have numerous measures in place to provide a safe working environment, including mandatory annual training and a 24/7 hotline and other mechanisms that allow for anonymous reporting."

He said the hospital would "review and respond to any concerns raised by our nurses and all employees."

Among the other allegations raised by the nurses in the statement are that Duncan's lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital's pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system. The nurses also alleged that hazardous waste was allowed to pile up to the ceiling.

The statement also claimed that Duncan was initially kept in a non-isolated area of the hospital's emergency room for several hours before being moved. Patients who were exposed to him were allegedly only kept in isolation for a day before being moved to be with other patients. In the same vein, the nurses claim that they were made to treat other patients while also treating Duncan, and were offered no more than an optional seminar to deal with changing guidelines.

"There was no advance preparedness on what to do with the patient, there was no protocol, there was no system," Burger said.

Even today, Burger said, some hospital staff at the Dallas hospital do not have proper equipment to handle the outbreak.

"Hospital managers have assured nurses that proper equipment has been ordered but it has not arrived yet," she said.

The statement said nurses had to "interact with Mr. Duncan with whatever protective equipment was available," even as he produced "a lot of contagious fluids." Duncan's medical records, which his family shared with The Associated Press, underscore some of those concerns.

Almost 12 hours after he arrived in the emergency room by ambulance, his hospital chart says Duncan "continues to have explosive diarrhea, abdominal pain, nausea and projectile vomiting." He was feverish and in pain.

When Ebola was suspected but unconfirmed, a doctor wrote "using the disposable shoe covers should also be considered." At that point, by all protocols, those shoe covers should have been mandatory to prevent anyone from tracking contagious body fluids around the hospital.

A few days later, however, entries in the hospital charts suggest that protection was improving.

"RN entered room in Tyvek suits, triple gloves, triple boots, and respirator cap in place," wrote a nurse.

The Presbyterian nurses are not represented by Nurses United or any other union. DeMoro and Burger said the nurses claimed they had been warned by the hospital not to speak to the media or they would be fired. They did not specify whether the nurses making the claims were among Duncan's caregivers.

The AP has attempted since last week to contact dozens of individuals involved in Duncan's care. Those who responded to reporters' inquiries have so far been unwilling to speak.

David R. Wright, deputy regional administrator for the U.S. Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, which monitors patient safety and has the authority to withhold federal funding, said his agency is going to want to get all of the information the nurses provided.

"We can't talk about whether we're going to investigate or not, but we'd be interested in hearing that information," he said.

CDC officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

If true, this is beyond appalling. Also if true, this means we are probably going to see ALOT more cases cropping up in the next week or so

 

[JohnnyLoco]

If true, this is beyond appalling. Also if true, this means we are probably going to see ALOT more cases cropping up in the next week or so

Let me ask this question, have they done one thing right in this case?

If this stuff spreads, we need to remember who did this, who is responsible, and they need to be severely handled.

 

[TheCytochromeC]

Let me ask this question, have they done one thing right in this case?

If this stuff spreads, we need to remember who did this, who is responsible, and they need to be severely handled.

They'll be taken by ebola just like the rest of us.

 

[RACER X]

CDC is now saying if you've been exposed to E you should not take a commercial flight

I guess nobody flying in from the effected African countries have been exposed


OMG!

 

[Ole Cowboy]

As has been shown week after week, day after day our entire govt is failing. Worse, the POTUS is a liar, he tells the truth about nothing, this sets the stage for the rest of govt to do same. No one is held accountable for gross misconduct and lying, no one and the very few that have are allowed to retire to 6 figure incomes.

This looks like shades of the Third Reich in the last half of WWII. As Hitler reported and continued to report how well they were doing, hwo they were winning the war. Or, the floundering USSR as it continued to fail and the govt continued lie after lie. Ever failing govt shows the same actions.

Sadly and the danger lies in the fact that Obama still has a 40% approval rating and I have no doubt that if Obama were to announce a run for a third term he would win...

 

[Younggun]

This is what happens when a government agency such as the CDC becomes part of the political bureaucracy.

The CDC should only have one concern, disease. When it gets intertwined with the political ebb an flow, getting favor appointments that must be related, gets involved with political agendas such as gun control, and becomes concerned with approval ratings of politicians in office it's real duties fall to the wayside and people die.

 

[Recoil45]

The CDC is now saying they may add the 70 medical workers who cared for Duncan to the no fly list. Yet people are still free to fly in from Africa.

These people are not logical and seem to be making this up as they go. What have they been spending all our tax dollars on all these years?

 

[Recoil45]

This is what happens when a government agency such as the CDC becomes part of the political bureaucracy.

The CDC should only have one concern, disease. When it gets intertwined with the political ebb an flow, getting favor appointments that must be related, gets involved with political agendas such as gun control, and becomes concerned with approval ratings of politicians in office it's real duties fall to the wayside and people die.

You nailed it.

 

[Younggun]

The CDC is now saying they may add the 70 medical workers who cared for Duncan to the no fly list. Yet people are still free to fly in from Africa.

These people are not logical and seem to be making this up as they go. What have they been spending all our tax dollars on all these years?

Back door approaches to gun control.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

CDC is now saying if you've been exposed to E you should not take a commercial flight

I guess nobody flying in from the effected African countries have been exposed


OMG!

That ONLY applies to us, here, if you got Ebola you can fly into the US with NO PROBLEMO!!!!! IMO I think Obama wants a Ebola crises and epidemic in the US. He wants as much chaos as can be created, he has an agenda and so far its working...

 

[Vaquero]

My conspiracy theory coworker thinks it's planned.
"They can't be that stupid" he says.

 

[Younggun]

My conspiracy theory coworker thinks it's planned.
"They can't be that stupid" he says.

I'm not sure I go that far.

I think they are trying too hard to make it "not a big deal" because we were all told before it's not a big deal and "it won't come here" and "if it comes here, we can handle it just fine".

We should be able to handle it just fine and squash it right quick. It's a hard disease to survive, but not a hard disease to stop. Not if they start acting and stop pretending.

 

[Moonpie]

My conspiracy theory coworker thinks it's planned.
"They can't be that stupid" he says.

Yes. Yes they can.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

My conspiracy theory coworker thinks it's planned.
"They can't be that stupid" he says.

Not sure if its planned, but NEVER let a good crises go to waste!

We are in the process of shifting our allegiance, loyalty and worship FROM a higher power to the GOVT. This is done thru creation of a chaotic country. Govt attacks ALL aspects of living, home, medical, transportation, etc etc. The more people fear the more they look to the govt to rule and protect them. Hurricane Katrina! Ebola epidemic, poor economy. All leading to an elected dictatorship and rule of man rather than rule of law...and we are sliding down this slope FAST!

 

[breakingcontact]

I don't think the CDC knew she was flying around the country.

I read that she called them?

 

[breakingcontact]

And im a couple of pages behind.