San Bernardino Sheriffs Dept . Some crown vics have kevlar paneled doors.
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Graphic police shoot out
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San Bernardino Sheriffs Dept . Some crown vics have kevlar paneled doors.
Most probably don't for anything like rifle rounds. It's incredibly expensive to armor a regular vehicle like a crown vic. Lots of welding, lots of steel, several hundred to several thousand pounds heavier.
Texanjoker
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Negative...Ive heard a few places did, but costs always become an issue... Some places don't even buy their officers bullet proof vests..
I remember being taught to roll the windows down so when you are hunkered behind the doors, the window helps deflect the rounds. The car is known as the coffin as it is a very dangerous place to be. These guys/gals saw that first hand.
ROGER4314
Been Called "Flash" Since I Was A Kid!
The BG must have been highly pissed off about something. Anyone know how many times he was hit? I suspect it was many wounds. It suggests that a 9mm or .40 cal doesn't have the oats for that kind of confrontation. He would have never kept going with .45acp rounds in him.
I have absolutely NO problem with the LEO's trashing this nut. For our own CHL training, however, you might consider a cease fire after he is down and motionless. For people like you and me, Grand Juries will not approve of the extra rounds that he absorbed after he was down.
Flash
I have absolutely NO problem with the LEO's trashing this nut. For our own CHL training, however, you might consider a cease fire after he is down and motionless. For people like you and me, Grand Juries will not approve of the extra rounds that he absorbed after he was down.
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To me, as long as he had his weapon in his hands after already trying to kill a LEO, anything goes. As long as he is a threat to take away a cops right to go home and hug his children and kiss his wife goodnight, he is nothing but a mass of organic matter that has forfeited its right to exist as a living free entity on this planet.
PLEASE remember that the NRA has vest programs - and that the Friends of NRA has a grant program for things such as that! Go to the Friends website and look at the "apply for a grant" drop-down. If you can't figure it out, drop me a line and I'll be MORE than happy to help! This is exactly the kind of thing we raise the $$$ for!!!!
Ditto.
I saw a report that the autopsy showed 19 shots, including several to the upper thoracic and head I believe.
There are some documented LE shootings out there of people taking a dozen or few dozen .45acp slugs and still managing to fight. Pistol rounds are anemic. I remember seeing a documented case of multiple officers shooting an armed guy 35 times, all of them armed with .45acp guns (forget which guns). Only the last few shots put him down.
Officer Jared Reston, formerly of a Florida police agency, took a first round hit to his jaw/chin with .45acp 230gr ball, and took 7 other shots, several of which missed the vest and hit his limbs, and I think one penetrated the vest and hit his torso. He stayed conscious, stayed in the fight, ran his Glock one handed, shot the guy multiple times, then as the guy crumpled over on top of him he put his gun to the attackers head and shot him 3 times in the head to end the fight. Pretty decisive.
I love .45acp as much as any red-blooded American should, but it is unfortunately not the death ray that people make it out to be.
A guy I knew in high school took a .45 at close range in his chest. His sternum deflected it down toward his liver. He lost most of his liver, but I hear he is doing OK now. There isn't much short of a military transport that will even slow down a rifle round.
I hope the police in the video have a full recovery.
I hope the police in the video have a full recovery.
I think the Wall of Guns you worked at the show sold $180,000 in tickets over the three days.
17 of those seemed to come toward the end when he dumped his whole glock mag into the guy while he was on his knees, and even kept going when the guy was laying on the floor. Good on him to make sure he was dead 12-13 times after he fell to the ground haha
Yup
Ford at one time offered kevlar door panels as an option on a CVPI, but I don't know if they do on their new police cars.
Yep. At least that officer decisively ended it, and left no mistake that guy was NOT coming back into the fight. That guy forfeited his life once he threw the door open and came out firing.
Guy even fired the AK one-handed, after being hit, once or twice before dropping to a knee. WTF.
Blind Sniper
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Crazy people do some crazy shit....
sonuvaTXgun
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Yep. At least that officer decisively ended it, and left no mistake that guy was NOT coming back into the fight. That guy forfeited his life once he threw the door open and came out firing.
Guy even fired the AK one-handed, after being hit, once or twice before dropping to a knee. WTF.
The guy had a serious death wish.
If you scroll to the bottom of the page, they found an assortment of items in his car that make him look like a Hollywood thug wannabe:
Prosecutor: Middlefield police officers acted in self-defense in fatal shooting of James Gilkerson
"A search of his car and the trunk revealed multiple loaded magazines and loads of ammunition, ski masks and gloves, military style ammo cans, a scoped .22 caliber rifle, numerous instructional DVDs and books such as "Kitchen Approved Plastic Explosives," "Advance Close-Range Gunfighting," "Homemade Detonators," and many others."
Texanjoker
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It was nothing to do with trashing this nut as you say. It was auto pilot and firing at that point until the threat was stopped. This is common in shootings. I know I lost track of rounds I fired during a OIS.
