How Many LEOs Would Enforce Unconstitutional Laws?

Hoji

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How many of you would enforce a law if say Texas passed a law that any religion other than Christianity was a crime. Would you go into mosques and synagogues and make arrests.

If you answered no to this , do you enforce bad gun laws?


Flame suit on.
 

txinvestigator

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How many of you would enforce a law if say Texas passed a law that any religion other than Christianity was a crime. Would you go into mosques and synagogues and make arrests.

If you answered no to this , do you enforce bad gun laws?


Flame suit on.

What if questions, while interesting philosophical discussion, are rarely productive. Your scenario is just like asking if aliens (the space kind) arrived without visas would ICE arrest them. It just isn't going to happen; the aliens arriving.

Your lead in about "bad gun laws" is a trap. :D The 2nd has just been ruled on, and when reading the opinion it is clear that there will have to be many more rulings before anything close to concrete is decided. Until then, the police enforce the current gun laws, regardless of whether he/she thinks it is "bad law".

That's all I'll have to say about this, but I assume it will be an interesting thread.
 

htxred

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when LEOs start to mix in their own personal beliefs and opinions with their job, things tend to start to get a bit messy. its their job to enforce the law, not what they feel the law should translate to. i reckin some will leave their LEO positions and find work else where.
 

Texas1911

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I feel it will be a moral dilemma for some LEOs. LEOs, for the far majority, are honest, moral people so naturally any law along the lines of religion may cause a stir. As far as guns, well ... I'm sure LEOs have a greater insensitivity towards them unless they happen to be a hobbiest. I think far more would follow orders with an unconstitutional gun law than one addressing the issue of religion.
 

mac79912

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There would not be any need for LEOs as there would be a uprising from the people. The National guard would have there hands full from the riots and killings resulting from an action like this.There would definitely be consequences against those who enforced a police action like this.Maybe even a civil war could start over an issue as touchy as religion.
 

Hoji

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What if questions, while interesting philosophical discussion, are rarely productive. Your scenario is just like asking if aliens (the space kind) arrived without visas would ICE arrest them. It just isn't going to happen; the aliens arriving.

Your lead in about "bad gun laws" is a trap. :D The 2nd has just been ruled on, and when reading the opinion it is clear that there will have to be many more rulings before anything close to concrete is decided. Until then, the police enforce the current gun laws, regardless of whether he/she thinks it is "bad law".

That's all I'll have to say about this, but I assume it will be an interesting thread.
House bill 823 in in effect in Texas as well, but in Harris County the rule is still arrest unless they have a CHL.:mad: There are several people awaiting trial because LEOs are enforcing an illegal order from the DA.
 

txinvestigator

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House bill 823 in in effect in Texas as well, but in Harris County the rule is still arrest unless they have a CHL.:mad: There are several people awaiting trial because LEOs are enforcing an illegal order from the DA.
***sigh*** Negative. In 2005, when the traveling presumption was created to make it legal for a law abiding citizen to carry in his car, The Houston DA, Chuck Rosenthal, said he believed arrested were still authorized and the courts would determine if the person met the presumption.

Two things have happened since, Rosenthal is no longer in office after a scandal, and the legislators removed the traveling presumption in PC 46.15 and made it clear that under PC 46.02, it is not UCW for a law abiding citizen to carry in his vehicle.

The Harris DA has simply pronounced that they would follow the law.

Besides, DA cannot order the police to make arrests.
 

Hoji

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Besides, DA cannot order the police to make arrests.

Keep on believing that. I am not going to argue with you any more. Everytime I post something you pipe in with your psuedowisdom and then you get corrected. I , and other licensed firearm instructors are really just tired of your juvenile antics. Really tired.

I have forgotten the #1 rule of arguing on the internet. It is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded.

Good day.
 

txinvestigator

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Keep on believing that. I am not going to argue with you any more. Everytime I post something you pipe in with your psuedowisdom and then you get corrected. I , and other licensed firearm instructors are really just tired of your juvenile antics. Really tired.

I have forgotten the #1 rule of arguing on the internet. It is like competing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you are still retarded.

Good day.
Apparantely you don't have enough confidence in yourself to make the statement without adding the "me and others" comments. Who are these others? BTW, I am a "licensed firearms instructor" too. I imagine you are no more impressed than I am that you are.

I and MANY others are growing tired of the "government is our enemy" rantings of radicals like you on here.

Please feel free to "correct" me again, bucko.

How on earth can a DA order a LE to do anything?
 

ReVrEnD_0341

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How on earth can a DA order a LE to do anything?
They can't. You know it, I know it, and everyone else does. :p

The trolls are growing 'round these parts.
 

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