I found a Remington 870 Magnum Express in the pawn shop yesterday, it has the birdy barrel but it's all black synthetic furniture, it has a little rusty like dust on it and it needs to be cleaned. The price is $189.99, he said they could probably knock the tax off and make it a solid $189.99. If I do buy this one I'll need to get a short barrel for $99.99 (out of midway) it's a mossberg barrel but it's for an 870 and I'll wind up getting at least a 2 shell tube extension (I'm unsure of the price on that). So, is it worth it to buy this 870 ME from the pawn shop that will cost me at least $289.99 without tax and shipping for the new barrel or just buy a new on for almost the same price? I'm thinking the new mossberg would be cheaper in the long run and just as good. mossberg persuader- http://www.academy.com/index.php?pa.../shotguns&start=0&selectedSKU=0350-01883-0411 870 HD- not found on Academy's web site Source- http://www.academy.com/index.php?pa...ts/outdoors/hunting/firearms/shotguns&start=0 I'm going to GT's to see what they might have new or on the "trade in rack" tonight.