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  • zackmars

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    I think i know the place. I can understand scoffing at the price, but would you be better off if they kept normal price, sold out 5 months ago, and have your only option be the gun on gun broker asking 100$/50?
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    rotor

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    Not meant as an attack on SS recipeints.............

    Had a conversation with my Dad many years ago on this subject.......he retired and started drawing SS at 62 and passed away at 94......

    When he started paying SS in 1937 (He was born in 1916) he was making about $.25 an hour........yes he paid in for many years.........but even with interest it was no where near the amount he drew out. He was actually getting money that I was paying in at that time.........there is no damn way he ever paid enough in SS taxes during his lifetime to give him 32 years of retirement pay in the amount he was receiving.............

    The same is true for me and my Son today............

    Yes.... it is a Ponzi scheme.......no, I am not turning it down, either............

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    We are officially out of .380 as of today with none on order, anywhere.....and I'll be damned if I pay some flipper an outrageous amount or stand in line just to do the same thing as the flipper......................
    How much is an outrageous amount?
     

    V-Tach

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    How much is an outrageous amount?

    Where did I say outrageous anywhere?

    All I said was he received way more in benefits than he ever paid in.......someone has to pay for it.....we can't just keep printing money...anyone knows that.........
     

    rotor

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    Where did I say outrageous anywhere?

    All I said was he received way more in benefits than he ever paid in.......someone has to pay for it.....we can't just keep printing money...anyone knows that.........
    In post #76. All I did was ask you what figure was an outrageous amount. Quoted you. Is $1 a round outrageous? What is your figure as I have a ton of .380.
    I am not talking about ss, just read your own post.
     

    V-Tach

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    Sorry, misunderstood what you were asking about.........

    We've been selling our .380 for $22.00/bx..........
     

    GoPappy

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    Maybe we need a law limiting the amount of ammo people can buy or store to make sure lazy neckbeards like you can still get some boolits even though you exhibit symptoms of poorly planned preparation.

    You need to work on your reading and comprehension skills. In BOTH of my posts on this subject, I’ve said that I’m stocked up on ammo, so it’s no skin off my nose what GlennB does. I just think its slimy.

    Also, in BOTH of my posts, I’ve said that it’s a free country and he can do what he wants. But I’m free to disagree with that practice.

    Do you mind if I disagree? Is that ok with you? Is it ok that I post my opinion? Please?? Pretty please????
     

    cycleguy2300

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    First of all, GlennB is not in business. If he was, he’d be buying from a wholesaler and not standing in line at Academy with all of his neckbeard buddies. He doesn’t buy and sell ammo on a regular basis; he only does it when there’s a shortage so he can mark it up higher than retail and resell it.

    Secondly, it’s him and those of his ilk contribute to and perpetuate these shortages. If they weren’t out buying up as much ammo as they can, there would be more available to Joe or Mary gun buyer who just bought their first gun and want some ammo to go with it.

    Again, I’ve got all the ammo I need so it doesn’t directly impact me. I just think it’s slimy. Obviously, some others disagree.

    I guess if I see GlennB on the side of the road with a flat tire and no jack, I can offer to loan him my jack for $50 and you guys will think that’s perfectly fine. I don’t.
    Thats like saying XPNCV fuel company is not really in business because they buy from a secondary distributor, not the refiner. And only built their gas station because they could make money at it.

    Look at the precious metals or even petroleum industry. There are countless companies that only drill/mine because the profit margins make it worth it. There is nothing disreputable about simply doing a task when it is worth it.

    Ultimately this is about greed over something you don't have but someone else does.
    Greed someone can "do work" even if it is standing in line.
    Greed they can afford to risk capitol investment with the hope of future returns.
    Greed that their reward for their work and investment was profitable.
    Greed because you want more ammo and are not willing to work for it and want something someone else has.

    Fair market value is based on what people will pay. For some, it is worth paying a substantial amount more for the guarantee of getting ammo over the risk of possibly getting ammo at a lower price (i.e. possibly doing work without any ROI).

    Ammo can be had, its perceived value varies person to person and If I just bought some I would make sure I sold it at a price I could replace it with the least amount of work.

    Glenn is providing a service and getting paid for it. No one has to buy from him, they could do the work and take the risk instead, but they choose not to for what ever reason.

    I find it odd and sad so many are taking a socialist position over a free market one here simply because it is valuable to YOU.

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    cycleguy2300

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    You need to work on your reading and comprehension skills. In BOTH of my posts on this subject, I’ve said that I’m stocked up on ammo, so it’s no skin off my nose what GlennB does. I just think its slimy.

    Also, in BOTH of my posts, I’ve said that it’s a free country and he can do what he wants. But I’m free to disagree with that practice.

    Do you mind if I disagree? Is that ok with you? Is it ok that I post my opinion? Please?? Pretty please????
    If you think he should be free to do this why is it slimy?
    Because you you are greedy or jealous of his work.

    He isn't doing anything wrong, so why malign his work?
    Because deep down you have some socialist leanings and are willing to shame someone for doing capitalist shit like working and making money for it.

    Your argument is just inconsistent...

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    If you think he should be free to do this why is it slimy?
    Because you you are greedy or jealous of his work.

    He isn't doing anything wrong, so why malign his work?
    Because deep down you have some socialist leanings and are willing to shame someone for doing capitalist shit like working and making money for it.

    Your argument is just inconsistent...

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    Damn dude, you really do have logic and comprehension issues. Just because something is slimy or isn’t the right thing to do doesn’t necessarily mean it should be illegal.

    Use my example in a prior post. If GlennB is on the side of the road with a flat tire and no jack, I stop and offer to let him use my jack for $50. Is that the right thing to do? Of course not. But it‘s not illegal, nor should it be. But it should would be a good indicator of a lack of character on my part.

    And don’t tell me that you would think that was just a fine thing for me to do if you heard about it, or that you would criticize anyone who dared to criticize me.
     

    TexMex247

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    Like the old saying goes gentlemen, buy it cheap and stack it deep. If we had all already done that there would be nothing to piss about. I've sold some ammo assets myself because I took my own advice long ago. Sure I doubled up on most of it and could have done better on gbroker or txguntrader but 100% profit was more than fair to me.

    The neckbearding urks me a bit but not enough to personally attack my fellow Texans. As this drought continues, if I have a friend in need, I'll always do what I can to help. That goes for a good lot of the members on this forum. If I had more time on my hands I'd even help teach people to reload on my equipment. I can't legally sell it anyhow so I'd rather teach a man to fish.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    Damn dude, you really do have logic and comprehension issues. Just because something is slimy or isn’t the right thing to do doesn’t necessarily mean it should be illegal.

    Use my example in a prior post. If GlennB is on the side of the road with a flat tire and no jack, I stop and offer to let him use my jack for $50. Is that the right thing to do? Of course not. But it‘s not illegal, nor should it be. But it should would be a good indicator of a lack of character on my part.

    And don’t tell me that you would think that was just a fine thing for me to do if you heard about it, or that you would criticize anyone who dared to criticize me.
    So, correct my terrible logic...

    What if you are in the business of road side assistance? Is it suddenly slimy to charge people for your work?

    When I worked at a bicycle shop in college, we had people buy handle bar tape then see we charged $20 to install. They would often ask if "how hard is it to install " me standard answer was "Its pretty easy for me, but a lot of people think its worth $20 to not do it".
    Was that somehow slimy? I could wrap bars in about 10min because I was good at so it came out to $120/h because I had something they didn't, ablity and knowledge.

    I was only making $5.25 was that slimy of my boss? I wanted more money so went to a new place that almost doubled my pay, but that's capitalism.

    Calling people names for using their ability to make money fairly and honestly isn't wrong or slimy and its socialist to name call for that.
    ANYONE can go stand in line if they choose to, just because they would rather pay Glenn to do their work for them doesn't make Glenn or anyone else a bad guy.

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    John Galt

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    I think you are missing the point. I will gladly pay for a service that I can't or won't perform myself. When there is a limited amount of a commodity and a person intentionally buys all available supplies of said commodity in order to prevent me from buying my own and then tries to tell me that his mark up is for the "service" he performed by standing in line to buy out all available supplies of said commodity, I call BS and pronounce him a POS.
     
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