I didn't really know where to put this thread, but since it pertains to reloading equipment i thought i would put it here. Carters Country they just don't have a clue of whats going on when you call them on the phone and in the store i think that they are some of the ruddiest people i have met. Customer service is important to me. Gander Mountain they are just over priced on just about everything they sell. Price is important as well.