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fedupdon

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Police Say Vet Made, Sold IEDs to Gangs

December 25, 2008
The Oklahoman


OKLAHOMA CITY -- Police spent the day searching the house of a decorated, two-tour Iraq war veteran on Tuesday, one day after he was arrested and charged with making explosive devices and attempting to sell them.
The investigation and arrest was prompted by a tip that the former Soldier was supposedly making improvised explosive devices to sell to gang members, according to a probable cause affidavit.
Steven Andrew Jordal, 24, was an infantry tank specialist in the U.S. Army from 2002 to 2007. He received the Army's Good Conduct medal, along with several other medals, badges and ribbons, the military confirmed.
Oklahoma City police took interest in Jordal when they received a tip he was selling IEDs to criminals. IEDs have emerged in Iraq as the weapon of choice for insurgents against U.S. forces.
For as little as $100, Jordal was making the same kinds of weapons he saw used against his fellow soldiers in Iraqi and selling them on the streets of Okalahoma City to gang members and known criminals, according to the document.
The police informant had seen Jordal testing explosives in an area near N. Western and 122 Street and said Jordal had custom- made a device for someone who wanted to damage the vehicle of someone who owed money on a drug deal.
With that information, police located Jordal on Monday evening and found him in possession of a device he allegedly intended to sell, and also found several concealed weapons including a loaded .38-caliber semiautomatic handgun, the affidavit said. It is unclear if Jordal will be facing federal or state charges.
Police said Jordal admitted to making multiple IEDs and that he had tried to sell them. He said he was selling the device police caught him with for $100, and that he knew it would be used in the very least to cause property damage.
It was during the same interview that Jordal gave consent to search his house and vehicle, where police said they expected to find more IEDs and explosive components. Police are not disclosing what if anything they found in the search of his house.
Jordal was arrested Monday on complaints of manufacturing explosives with the intent to sell them. It is unclear if he will be facing federal or state charges.
 

Old Man of the Mountain

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That was an American Citizen selling to gang members.

The Washington Government is sending non-Citizens and known gang members to the Middle East for Military Training, where will that lead?
 

kville79

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That was an American Citizen selling to gang members.

The Washington Government is sending non-Citizens and known gang members to the Middle East for Military Training, where will that lead?

I'm sorry but that comment really bugs me.

non-citizens... yes there are immigrants serving in the US armed forces, and personally I think their doing a lot more to earn their rights as citizens than a good percentage of native born Americans who know nothing about patriotism except sound bytes and flag waving.

Gang members... yes we try to weed these people out before they even get on those yellow footprints. But like every military, every large organization there are those who slip through the cracks and we get problems. The funny thing is that I'm sure you're thinking about the "bloods" and "crips" when referring to gang members in the military.. and they're there. But the most active groups trying to get there members to join the military are actually white supremacist groups, they IMHO are the last thing we need in the military.

Anyways I just had to throw in my 2cents to clarify a few points, considering I'm not sure if you've ever served.
 

DirtyD

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That was an American Citizen selling to gang members.

The Washington Government is sending non-Citizens and known gang members to the Middle East for Military Training, where will that lead?
As a current Soldier and former Marine I am currently serving as a recruiter, and I really resent that remark. Yes there are non-citizens serving in the Miliitary, and they are doing more to ensure your freedoms and way of life than a majority of the American population. As for the "gang members" we do a pretty damn good job of screening those guys out. I am begining to see a trend in a number of your posts....
 

djspump2003

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I'm sorry but that comment really bugs me.

non-citizens... yes there are immigrants serving in the US armed forces, and personally I think their doing a lot more to earn their rights as citizens than a good percentage of native born Americans who know nothing about patriotism except sound bytes and flag waving.

Gang members... yes we try to weed these people out before they even get on those yellow footprints. But like every military, every large organization there are those who slip through the cracks and we get problems. The funny thing is that I'm sure you're thinking about the "bloods" and "crips" when referring to gang members in the military.. and they're there. But the most active groups trying to get there members to join the military are actually white supremacist groups, they IMHO are the last thing we need in the military.

Anyways I just had to throw in my 2cents to clarify a few points, considering I'm not sure if you've ever served.
I've been in the Navy since August of 1997 and I never have met a gang-member or ex-gang member during my active years of service. I've gone some places in my reserve years and met a few gang members that mostly came out of the Los Angelos area where the judge gave them the military or prison choice. I didn't think that existed anymore, but the guys I met didn't seem to be kidding about it.

I know that the Marines and Army have lowered their standards a tad since it is more difficult to recruit people to go to the sandbox. I know the Navy will now accept up to 3 felonies on your record that you can get waivers for.

Back to gang members in the military. The articles I have read were big on MS-13 sending their folks into the Marines and the Army so they could come back and teach the others all of the rifle training ya'll are so good at.
 

kville79

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I'm not denying there a gang members currently in the military, I think I actually admitted to that fact. I spent 4yrs in the Marine infantry, 3yrs in the Army infantry, and now am an intelligence analyst in the reserves. As a infantryman I can tell you one thing... gangbanging attitude is not something that fits in an infantry unit. Most the people I've met that had a "thug" attitude where in the army's 92's series jobs... so it's fine with me if they go back to there "homies" and show them how to be a line cook, pump fuel, or be a supply clerk.
 

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