Illegal 30.06 in Allen, TX

[gringogigante]

Don't know if any of you made it to the Allen Event Center this past weekend, but the Event Center (which is owned by the City of Allen) had a 30.06 sign posted on very large posters at several points along the entrance.

Being a city owned building and not meeting any of the criteria set forth by 30.06, 46.03, or 46.035 this appears to be an illegal 30.06 sign.

Am I missing something here?

 

[Renegade]

If you mean the white letters on the doors, yeah I saw that. I think they held a gun show there this past week....

ETA:

Did not mean to imply a connection. Just two facts about AEC.

 

[gringogigante]

Sorry I wasn't more clear.... It appears to be an illegal 30.06 sign.

It's a city owned building, has no courts (or offices utilized by...), no voting booths, and none of the requirements listed by 46.03 and 46.035....

 

[Bithabus]

Just ignore the sign then. The Saxet show in Austin is now in a government owned building and I bet they will post a meaningless 30.06.

 

[txinvestigator]

There is nothing "illegal" about the sign. The violate no law by posting. You can ignore it if is at a location owned or leased by a govt entity

 

[gringogigante]

thanks for clarifying. I was trying to be brief in the title line.

One thing they did do was have a couple of private security guys stop everyone that walked in and ask them verbally if they were carrying a loaded handgun and then asked to see it. There was a cop stationed right next to them. I guess they were trying to intimidate.....

 

[Texan2]

Floresville Civic Center has the same signs posted yet they dont meet any of the requirements either. I noticed them at the gun show on Saturday.

 

[texas_teacher]

thanks for clarifying. I was trying to be brief in the title line.

One thing they did do was have a couple of private security guys stop everyone that walked in and ask them verbally if they were carrying a loaded handgun and then asked to see it. There was a cop stationed right next to them. I guess they were trying to intimidate.....

Security guards can go sit on a stick.

 

[gringogigante]

I'm also curious how any of you have approached city officials if you've seen ineffective 30.06 signs in city places liek public school parking lots, Allen Event Center, etc....

 

[txinvestigator]

Security Guards have the same authority as the owner of the property, and they can effect an arrest.

If this was at a gun show, don't carry loaded inside. We read enough about Bozos popping off a round at gun shows.

If something is not illegal, I don't care what kind of dumb sign they post.

 

[texas_teacher]

Security Guards have the same authority as the owner of the property, and they can effect an arrest.

True but I thought this was public property. The owner being the people of Allen. There can be a manager of the property or a facilitator but as far as an owner, every tax-paying citizen in Allen would be considered such.

 

[Texan2]

True but I thought this was public property. The owner being the people of Allen. There can be a manager of the property or a facilitator but as far as an owner, every tax-paying citizen in Allen would be considered such.

It is owned by the public but that doesnt mean the public gets to make the rules for what goes on there.
the "I'm a tax-payer" so this is my building......or ""I'm a tax-payer and you work for me".....or any other similar phrase to a public official are heard all the time and never hold water.

 

[texas_teacher]

It is owned by the public but that doesnt mean the public gets to make the rules for what goes on there.
the "I'm a tax-payer" so this is my building......or ""I'm a tax-payer and you work for me".....or any other similar phrase to a public official are heard all the time and never hold water.

True... Then again the people usually making such claims aren't the calmest individuals.

 

[Texan2]

True... Then again the people usually making such claims aren't the calmest individuals.

aint that the truth!

 

[texas_teacher]

aint that the truth!

Hahaha maybe why the ones of us that can make a legitimate argument of it get such a bad rap...

 

[Texan2]

i think its all in the tone....
sometimes that doesn't come across online, but in person, its easy to pick out the loud mouths.

 

[Bithabus]

Security Guards have the same authority as the owner of the property, and they can effect an arrest.

Security has no more power to effect arrest than any citizen. In this case what would they be arresting for?

If a gun show is in a public building there is no reason not to carry concealed into the show. For normal, responsible, people. If someone is an asshat and likes to pull their loaded pistol and wave it around they would be better served not carrying anywhere.

 

[txinvestigator]

Security has no more power to effect arrest than any citizen. In this case what would they be arresting for?

That is correct, and I was responding in general to the comment that guards can go "sit on a stick".

If a gun show is in a public building there is no reason not to carry concealed into the show. For normal, responsible, people. If someone is an asshat and likes to pull their loaded pistol and wave it around they would be better served not carrying anywhere.

Agreed, but how do you keep those folks out?

 

[Bithabus]

Agreed, but how do you keep those folks out?

How do you keep them out of any place? I don't think you can, until they screw up.

My point is that Joe Bozo who likes to pull his carry gun and point it around is no more of a menace at a gun show than he is at What A Burger.

 

[MR Redneck]

How do you keep them out of any place? I don't think you can, until they screw up.

My point is that Joe Bozo who likes to pull his carry gun and point it around is no more of a menace at a gun show than he is at What A Burger.

I glad Joe Bozo dont live out here!