In need of pistol training for me and my girl. Houston area

Discussion in 'Training & Competition' started by accordingtoome, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. accordingtoome

    accordingtoome Active Member

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    Hello fellow gunners. I would like to say that im a good shot with a pistol... But im not. As a matter of fact im about the worst shot i know. So im looking for some basic handgun training for me and my girl. Im pretty sure i dont hold it right .. Etc.. And would hate to show my future wife to be all my bad habits. I live on the west side of houston but "have gun, will travel". Im looking to start first week of Dec.
     


  2. kingofwylietx

    kingofwylietx Well-Known

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    Holy smokes.......that was one of the most honest self-scored skill assessments to ever be typed in the www.

    Hopefully, someone can recommend a good trainer or course in your area. You will probably do very well with a trainer because you are going into it with the advantage of a huge asset..........an open mind.
     
  3. Lumberjack98

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  4. accordingtoome

    accordingtoome Active Member

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    i stop and ask for directions too ;)

    Im not one to brag on a board about my skills if i really don't have any. I just hope that soon i will be able to hit a target past 15 feet.
     
  5. accordingtoome

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    too rich for my blood. $150 per person plus the rental, ammo. seems like a lot of money for someone to say. "hold it like this, shoot it like that"
    I'll look around some more.
     
  6. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

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    Drive to Shiloh. Jeff and Ngoc would be more than happy to help you guys out. Plus, you could run through some of the tactical courses to help you get out of the same rut.

    Grip only matters primarily for gun control, if you have an accuracy issue it's more than likely a flinch, or improper trigger control. Both are easily tuned out with a few visits and an open mind.
     
  7. JKTex

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    Didn't you say "have gun will travel"? So you don't need to rent a gun, and you can bring you're own ammo.

    But if you want to cheap out on training, and admit you can't shoot, and need fundamental help, please keep the gun locked up safely until you decide it's worth a few bucks for formal training. ;)

    Or, look for free training tips. Such as, YouTube - Todd Jarrett on pistol shooting.

    This is a great video for basic holding, trigger finger placement, stance etc. Look for tips on trigger control also. Great tips like the surprise shot, using an empty case balanced on the front sight and dry firing (1911).

    There are many basic shooting tips resources on-line. Once you get comfortable with the fundamentals, you'll realize that it IS worth every penny to pay for good instruction.
     
  8. JKTex

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    Also, this chart might help you determine what you're doing to your shot. It's not the guaranteed answer, but in my case, it was very accurate.

    Ok, never mind. The 100kb limit won't let me post the 14kb Shooting Wheel unless I kill off one of the 2 other files I have uploaded. :banghead:

    Google "Shooting Wheel" or try this link. You may have to be a member to view the image though. It's a good resource as well.

    THR - View Single Post - Pistol Shooters Diagnostic Chart

    Or

    Pistol Shooters Diagnostic Chart - THR and scroll down for a few different versions. It may help you figure out what you're doing.
     
  9. accordingtoome

    accordingtoome Active Member

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    great thanks for the tips and the PM's.
     
  10. SIG_Fiend

    SIG_Fiend Administrator TGT Supporter Admin

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    First off there is the "surprise break" method. Basically, once you line up on target and have your sights aligned, start focusing on the front sight hard. While doing this, you want to very, very slowly start easing the trigger back. Don't even try to "make" the gun shoot, just pull it back slowly, slowly increasing pressure. The whole time, it can help to say to yourself or out loud FRONT SIGHT, FRONT SIGHT, FRONT SIGHT to get your mind focused on concentrating there. If done correctly, eventually the gun will go off when you don't expect it. The point is, this keeps you from yanking the trigger back. With the sights in proper alignment, a front sight focus, and not yanking the trigger, the shots should hit right at the point of aim every time. There are other issues that can creep up as well though like improper sight alignment with the eye (this can really show up if you are cross dominant, wear glasses, etc). Though, other issues aside, start there and see how you do.

    Here's a good video to give you a visualization of this: YouTube - Jeff Cooper's Defensive Pistolcraft Tape Series

    Another thing you can try is to cut a fairly large square out of the center of mass of the target, say maybe the size of at least double your fist or larger. The reason you are doing this is to get yourself used to not seeing the bullet impact, or at least not looking at the hole after the shot. This is an incredibly tough habit to break, but believe me it's worthwhile. Basically what you do is you fire at least a box (preferably more) of ammo at the target straight through this large square, and try to keep everything within this empty square in the center. Once you've done that for awhile and can consistently keep all your shots inside this empty square, then get another target and cut another square in the COM, but this time make it a bit smaller. Keep doing this until you can work your way down to preferably a fist sized group in the COM, with as fast of follow up shots as you can manage. The reason I say fist sized is, at close range and for self defense, that's pretty much all the accuracy anyone will need, and it generally seems to be a good balance between speed and accuracy. Going for the one hole groups at 0-15yds means you are likely going to have extremely slow follow up shots.

    Also, I highly recommend picking up this DVD:

    Tactical Response Gear

    That DVD goes a LONG way towards dispelling any myths, and it will give you a big jump start on learning to shoot properly. Believe me, it is the best $40 I've ever spent, and I learned a lot more watching that than I would have spending it on another $40 worth of ammo.
     

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