Just a heads up.

[winchster]

Read an article this morning that is very disconcerting.

'GEOGRAPHY OF RISK' App Tries to Locate Homes, Businesses of Gun Owners.

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2013/07...-tries-to-locate-homes-businesses-gun-owners/

 

[Glockster69]

Could be a good tool if used for it's intended purpose.

Sadly it will most likely be used by nosey nellies and antis.

 

[winchster]

Could be a good tool if used for it's intended purpose. Sadly it will most likely be used by nosey nellies and antis.

I must disagree. It's intended purpose is specifically designed to ostracize gun owners. This is bad all the way around.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

I must disagree. It's intended purpose is specifically designed to ostracize gun owners. This is bad all the way around.

This

 

[Shorts]

I hate stuff like this. Yes, I used the words hate.

Glockster, can you explain a little more why you said it is a good tool? I don't agree with that but perhaps I haven't thought of an angle you have. I believe this is an app to tattle-tell on people doing stuff one doesn't like. I think it is marketed for "safety" but it is intended as a public gun owner registry. One could reply to that and say "But look at all the gun forums and gun owners who go online and participate in forums, wear firearm manf clothing/items. Aren't they already declaring in public they have guns?" My reply would be those things are voluntarily done by the owners, not a third party tattle-telling.

Being a bully on the playground, being the rejected kid and not playing well with others seems to be a common theme in politics these days. I think that comes directly from the top. Someone was never let a turn on the merry go round. Or got made fun of so he'd take his ball and go home and then think of ways everyone would be sorry one day.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

I hate stuff like this. Yes, I used the words hate.

Glockster, can you explain a little more why you said it is a good tool? I don't agree with that but perhaps I haven't thought of an angle you have. I believe this is an app to tattle-tell on people doing stuff one doesn't like. I think it is marketed for "safety" but it is intended as a public gun owner registry. One could reply to that and say "But look at all the gun forums and gun owners who go online and participate in forums, wear firearm manf clothing/items. Aren't they already declaring in public they have guns?" My reply would be those things are voluntarily done by the owners, not a third party tattle-telling.

Being a bully on the playground, being the rejected kid and not playing well with others seems to be a common theme in politics these days. I think that comes directly from the top. Someone was never let a turn on the merry go round. Or got made fun of so he'd take his ball and go home and then think of ways everyone would be sorry one day.

good point!! Also just another back door way to implement the big o plan. We are manning a wall.
Cant go over, go around, cant do that, go under, cant do that, pull it down one brick at a time.
This makes it even more easy to snitch.
With out fear

 

[Orbie]

Well I wonder how long till the developer takes the app down himself. Surely he will realize that his app is only going to cause him trouble.

 

[AcidFlashGordon]

My question is (seeing as how I can't ask it on the Gun Geo Maker site - comments disabled: F.A.Q. | Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners) WHO decides if someone is "potentially unsafe?" Is this determination made by a qualified mental health individual? Hell no. It's done by the Tom, Dick and Harry who have the app.

Q: How can I tell if a marked site is a serious concern?

A: All site markings are the responsibility of users whose anonymity is protected by this software. There is no way for anyone to check the veracity of marked sites beyond living in and understanding your own neighborhood, and using your experience there to determine if a mark makes sense or not. For example, if somebody has marked a site as under the category “Possible prohibited persons” with the message “They are n!&&**s. And guns r bad dood.” (edited to remove racial epithet, a real mark!), then you should be able to deploy basic common sense to determine that this is probably a fake mark by an angry anti-gun-safety type. (Not to mention, a probable racist…) But if the category is “Guns and unsupervised children” and the message is “My child’s friend talked about his Dad’s unlocked handgun”, then you might draw an entirely different conclusion about the site. Please see the gun marking guide for more useful tips!

So they'll go by hearsay and NOT actual evidence.....brilliant, just f##king brilliant. This is what you could call a "bonus" situation........We bend over and they bone us.

 

[Glockster69]

I must disagree. It's intended purpose is specifically designed to ostracize gun owners. This is bad all the way around.

Still waking up when I read link. I thought purpose was to report "potentially dangerous" owners.
I'll re-read it.

 

[Southpaw]

He's an Anti disguising himself under "safety".

 

[AcidFlashGordon]

Still waking up when I read link. I thought purpose was to report "potentially dangerous" owners.
I'll re-read it.

Just remember....this is an app that anyone with an Android can download and use. Potential/hypothetical situation:

One of your neighbors is extremely anti-gun (or they're just afraid of them because no one has educated them on guns and gun safety). They see you coming out of your house, you on your way to the range, carrying guns. They panic and put your address in the app because you have guns out in the open...so you MUST be "potentially unsafe."

Extreme case, maybe, but I have no doubts it will happen. OR, what about just your common variety anti-gunner? He hates all guns and anyone who owns them. He knows his neighbor owns guns so he sticks his neighbor in the app.

 

[Southpaw]

My question is (seeing as how I can't ask it on the Gun Geo Maker site - comments disabled: F.A.Q. | Geolocate Dangerous Guns and Owners) WHO decides if someone is "potentially unsafe?" Is this determination made by a qualified mental health individual? Hell no. It's done by the Tom, Dick and Harry who have the app.



So they'll go by hearsay and NOT actual evidence.....brilliant, just f##king brilliant. This is what you could call a "bonus" situation........We bend over and they bone us.

I know people that honestly believe that just the mere fact of owning a firearm is "potentially dangerous" !!!

 

[Glockster69]

AFG: I covered that in post 2

ETA: same for you shorts

Folks I'm NOT an anti or a plant. With reservations, you can come to me casa and see I actually have gear

 

[Glockster69]

good point!! Also just another back door way to implement the big o plan. We are manning a wall.
Cant go over, go around, cant do that, go under, cant do that, pull it down one brick at a time.
This makes it even more easy to snitch.
With out fear

Sure wish you replied 1st so I could +1 that

 

[Southpaw]

AFG: I covered that in post 2

ETA: same for you shorts

Folks I'm NOT an anti or a plant. With reservations, you can come to me casa and see I actually have gear

How much gear could you pack into that van down by the river???

 

[dustycorgill]

And let me guess...IF one of us were to end up on this stupid app, we would have no recourse, right? No legal recourse I mean. I really wish people would mind their own friggin business.

 

[V-Tach]

Well..one thing for sure......anti-gun folks wouldn't be pulling all the BS if gun owners weren't peaceful law abiding citizens........

The fact that we are....speaks volumes.......in a good way.....imho...

 

[grumper]

Just opens the door for someone else to write an app to track Jews and homosexuals.

Liberal fuckwit needs to ask himself if that Pandora's box is worth opening.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

Just opens the door for someone else to write an app to track Jews and homosexuals.

Liberal fuckwit needs to ask himself if that Pandora's box is worth opening.

Eeeeeek can they do that!! Not yet but soon if we keep goin this way!!

 

[grumper]

Eeeeeek can they do that!! Not yet but soon if we keep goin this way!!

Why wouldn't someone be able to do that ? Hire the Chinese to reverse engineer the gun owner tracker, use the exact same code with a couple changed variable names and different UI. Rename it to Gaydar or JudenJager version 8.8. Make up some total horsecrap reason for the app: so gays can hook up easier or to make it easier to find Jews so you can ask them questions about circumcision.

If they allow the other app to be sold then they must legally allow the Gaydar, since it's technically the same app.

Surely nothing bad could possibly come from abuse of this stupid app right ?