Nest thermostat shenanigans
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The program I set in the thermostat will continue to run until I change it. The utility company nor my wife is able to change or override the settings.
You can, with my setup at least, set limits on the extent of adjustments you'll allow. Last time the rates skyrocketed I got two $25 bill credits on back to back days for allowing adjustment. The air temp in the house never went above 75 degrees during the day, and back down to 71 at night like usual. Honestly we didn't even notice it until the bill came.
I am not so worried about that happening. you could cut all lines to my house and I would still be fine. I know enough to undo automated gadgets and go back to the old ways.
We also did just fine a couple of winters ago when the snowpocolyps left us without water or electricity for over a week.
We also were not even slightly effected with the Covid scamdemic had grocery store shelves empty.
We are not crazy preppers, I just started life in the gawd awfull state of Illinois and learned that Mother Nature is a real bitch!
We have always kept a decent stockpile of essentials.
We're of the same mindset as you.
After we bought this place, I brought that skillset to here. Hand-pumped water, supply of firewood, cooking methods that require no fuel outside of what can be obtained here, etc. Left unmolested we can go for quite a while. (And we can take care of the molesters, too. hehe)
Don't get me wrong; I enjoy the hell out of having electricity, especially A/C, down here - but my years off-grid on the mountain, sometimes snowed in months at a time, only reinforced my passion for the old ways... and I've been lucky enough to have actually done it and lived it - not just read about it somewhere thinking 'yeah, I'll just do that...' <- which a lot of 'preppers' think all they have to do is buy some gear and supplies, and put them back without even opening the box, if you know what I mean. They're gonna be surprised, LOL. Stressful times - are not conducive for OTJ learning.
I'm guessing you use the app on your phone? A lot of apps will do that, and then they have access to all the data google collects on you, too.
Here's another reason to really think about all this.... because it's a direct path into your house, and life.
The vid at the top is the first story, the article itself is in response to it.
Although the title is a tad click-bait, the matter itself is not tinfoil.
www.foxnews.com
The vid at the top is the first story, the article itself is in response to it.
Although the title is a tad click-bait, the matter itself is not tinfoil.
AI expert warns Elon Musk-signed letter doesn't go far enough, says 'literally everyone on Earth will die'
Eliezer Yudkowsky, a decision theorist and artificial intelligence expert, is calling for a complete "shut down" of all AI development on systems more powerful than GPT-4, arguing it is obvious that such advanced intelligence will kill everyone on Earth.
it's a good time for people to read the book, or watch the movie "I Robot" again.Here's another reason to really think about all this.... because it's a direct path into your house, and life.
The vid at the top is the first story, the article itself is in response to it.
Although the title is a tad click-bait, the matter itself is not tinfoil.
AI expert warns Elon Musk-signed letter doesn't go far enough, says 'literally everyone on Earth will die'
Eliezer Yudkowsky, a decision theorist and artificial intelligence expert, is calling for a complete "shut down" of all AI development on systems more powerful than GPT-4, arguing it is obvious that such advanced intelligence will kill everyone on Earth.
Not my age. Then it would be to hot.
Not getting it. What’s the problem with walking over to the Tstat and adjusting it? I’ve got a programmable, but for the life of me would not know how to program it. When I leave for any any amount of time, I bump it up or down. When I get back I adjust it again. It’s not that difficult. How soft have we become?
Same here.
There's three kinds of thermostats. 1. Manual 2. Programmable 3. Automatic.
Manual is obvious, and programmables are a major pain in the rear. Those are the ones you have to play button gymnastics to set what time of day you want it at whatever temperature, and that's all they do. Basically saves you the trip to the wall, but not really because schedules change, and they're such a pain to program everyone puts them on manual.
The newest models (Ecobee, Nest, newer Honeywell, newer Trane, etc.) are automatic, and in my view more of an evolution of the manual thermostat. You give it your comfort levels, and it maintains them. They'll monitor the weather, the inside temp and humidity not only at the wall, but anywhere you place a room sensor, room occupancy, etc. They'll do things like prevent your pipes from freezing when you went out of town and turned the switch to 'off' and the temp drops. The thermostat enforces safety limits without a trip to the wall, or having to log into the app. They'll do things like proactively recirculate the air without turning on the A/C or furnace to help maintain climate balance and prevent stale air. If you equipment supports it (e.g. variable speed compressors) they'll not only monitor but control the humidity in the house. Keeps you more comfortable, prevents nasty problems like mold, keeps the house from smelling 'stale.'
Manual is obvious, and programmables are a major pain in the rear. Those are the ones you have to play button gymnastics to set what time of day you want it at whatever temperature, and that's all they do. Basically saves you the trip to the wall, but not really because schedules change, and they're such a pain to program everyone puts them on manual.
The newest models (Ecobee, Nest, newer Honeywell, newer Trane, etc.) are automatic, and in my view more of an evolution of the manual thermostat. You give it your comfort levels, and it maintains them. They'll monitor the weather, the inside temp and humidity not only at the wall, but anywhere you place a room sensor, room occupancy, etc. They'll do things like prevent your pipes from freezing when you went out of town and turned the switch to 'off' and the temp drops. The thermostat enforces safety limits without a trip to the wall, or having to log into the app. They'll do things like proactively recirculate the air without turning on the A/C or furnace to help maintain climate balance and prevent stale air. If you equipment supports it (e.g. variable speed compressors) they'll not only monitor but control the humidity in the house. Keeps you more comfortable, prevents nasty problems like mold, keeps the house from smelling 'stale.'
Thats what I really like about the nest; I can walk up to it, it'll tell me what the temp is at the unit, if the system is on or off, what its target temp is, what the weather is, and an estimated time (based on history) on when it think it'll get to the desired temperature. Acts just like a manual thermostat with a few other features. Great!
The programmable part is fantastic too: I can tell it by 7:30am (on my phone or computer) on Wednesdays I'd like it to be 70 degrees so I can hop out of bed and its a comfortable temperature, but since I sleep in on Thursdays I'd like it to get up to 70 at 8am. Instead of trying to program a weekly and time schedule using 4 buttons, I have a graphical interface showing me exactly what I did plus I can change it in about 30 seconds instead of digging out a manual. Alternatively I can set it to a learning mode and after a couple weeks if it learns I set the temperature 5 degrees higher at about 1pm, it'll predict that eventually and do it automatically. Its not perfect but gets reasonably close as if you had a room mate helping with the thermostat. Here's the interface for programming it, tell me this isn't infinitely easier than the 4 button programmable boxes most people have had on their walls since the late 90s
Additionally, if your phone's location shows you're away, it automatically bumps the temperature up or down based on what you want. The AI isn't there yet to really detect when you're coming back from a random fishing trip, but the learning part starts to learn if you normally get home at 5:30 every day it'll know how long it takes to take the temp from 78 to 72 and start it ahead of time. Similarly, I have the learning aspect turned off because of my work from home and random weekend trips; if I leave for the day it'll change the temp appropriately and turn on cameras, or whatever else I tell it to do; I can program the system to listen to calming music so my dog/cat has something to listen to. BUT if I head out for the day and 2 hours before I know I'm coming home, I can set the temp from its energy saving mode to comfort setting and by the time I'm home its comfortable again.
I don't' think its a matter of soft or hardness, but when used smartly it can save electricity by not heating or cooling an empty house, or having to mess with a horrid "programmable" old style thermostat. Now I'm not suggesting its right for everyone since I live alone but when I did have someone else living here they also liked it. If your house is like grand central with people coming and going or always there, yeah it wouldn't make much sense since it'll likely be set to a comfortable temperature at all hours of the day anyway.
I like the ability to set and change the programming of my thermostat from my phone or laptop rather than having to set times and temperatures on a small keypad on the thermostat. During the holidays when weather conditions changed, I was able change the settings although I was several hundred miles away. However I do not want to allow the utility company or anyone else to decide what settings it maintains.
I replaced my HVAC a couple years ago but kept the old school thermostat. Has a little glass tube with mercury in it...works perfectly.
Warm? Slide the lever one way...Cold? Slide it the other way. Simple. No phone required. Also not bothered by internet connection being out, or electrical surges, no computer board either.
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Warm? Slide the lever one way...Cold? Slide it the other way. Simple. No phone required. Also not bothered by internet connection being out, or electrical surges, no computer board either.
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