Net Nutrality

[Lunyfringe]

As "socialist" as the streets you drive on to get home.

but those were publicly funded from the beginning... and yes, they are a socialist construct.

So you would have private companies that own the current internet infrastructure just turn it over to the Federal gov't, or sell it to them? and create a whole new gov't department to maintain said infrastructure- and pretty much all future development (which currently occurs at a significant pace) would be the responsibility of a gov't entity? What a great way to eliminate all competition...

 

[Lunyfringe]

I can't argue with that ... however, facilitating the building of, and managing of, don't necessarily coincide.

Most of the power generating dams in this country were built with tax incentives and tax payer dollars, and are subsequently managed by private corporations .. Entex, a case in point.



Yep, but you may be unaware that much of the infrastructure already exists, and that company's like Google are using tax incentives to take advantage of that fact. Bring some National focus and incentives to that same effort, like we did when building upon existing wagon trails, then highways, then Interstate Highways, and it will be no surprised at what can be accomplished despite the waste inherent in large projects, government or otherwise.

I believe Google is re-thinking their fiber project, it's proving to be more expensive and less profitable than they had thought.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ing-out-to-new-cities/?utm_term=.abfdf0dd8d0f

so, subsidies or not- it's a big money pit

 

[karlac]

Keep trying, Bubba.
One of these days what was actually stated, and how you misread it just might coincide.

 

[Lunyfringe]

Keep trying, Bubba.
One of these days what was actually stated, and how you misread it just might coincide.

I think it's a function of your idea being so half-baked...

so please fully bake your idea and tell us what you're proposing with this gov't provided internet.

 

[Younggun]

Yep, just like the railroads are today ...
They still played a big part in the economy of this country.
As the Internet will increasingly continue to do until it follows the same path.

An interesting read (or really boring) on the early history of american infrastructure.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.533.1773&rep=rep1&type=pdf

 

[Younggun]

Deleted

Turns out a few posts had been made and weren't showing.

 

[karlac]

An interesting read (or really boring) on the early history of american infrastructure.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.533.1773&rep=rep1&type=pdf

Agree, and the section on the Erie Canal sounds particularly applicable to the discussion.

 

[Renegade]

It is narrow minded to think the Internet has not become vital to our national, and global, economic strength .... just as the Interstate Highways system has become.

Mis-Atttribution - I never said.

 

[karlac]

Can't stand it any longer. I'm going to have to go check on what evil shenanigans by the dems are being aimed at Trump today.

As ever, despite talking past each other is still a historical feature of our discussions, I've always enjoyed your input and insight, Younggun. It doesn't go unnoticed.

 

[Renegade]

So while you guys were discussing this, the FCC voted 3:2 repeal the Obama Rules.

 

[karlac]

Mis-Atttribution - I never said.

"economic strength" a concept you're having trouble with?
Or just looking for an argument, again?

 

[karlac]

So while you guys were discussing this, the FCC voted 3:2 repeal the Obama Rules.

As it should have.

 

[Renegade]

"economic strength" a concept you're having trouble with?
Or just looking for an argument, again?

I DID NOT WRITE WHAT YOU QUOTED - IT WAS YOUNGUN

HAVING A PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING THAT?

 

[Renegade]

Here let me help you out, since you probably cannot figure out how to go back to page 5:

POST #43:

<snip>

And you still haven't said why it's vital to the strength of the nation.

So in POST #45, when you attributed that to me, that is call Mis-Attribution.

a concept you're having trouble with?
Or just looking for an argument, again?

 

[karlac]

I DID NOT WRITE WHAT YOU QUOTED - IT WAS YOUNGUN

HAVING A PROBLEM UNDERSTANDING THAT?

Except that I actually quoted Youngguns post, as is apparent from what was quoted.
Software glitch?

 

[Renegade]

OK lets go with that. Anything I said recently that was stupid was not me, but a software glitch. - Can I use that going forward too?

 

[karlac]

Here let me help you out, since you probably cannot figure out how to go back to page 5:
POST #43:
So in POST #45, when you attributed that to me, that is call Mis-Attribution.
a concept you're having trouble with?
Or just looking for an argument, again?

Again, I did not quote you, had no intention of quoting you, knew exactly where the words came from, and specifically quoted Younggun's post.

I will say the that quite a few times during this discussion the site software was timing out between post and showing posts out of order ... most likely why Younggun deleted that post.

Furthermore post #83 was written posted in response to, post #84 .... WTH???

In any event, I apologize to you for whatever the hell happened ... but ain't no way in hell that quote came from anywhere but a REPLY to Younggun's post.

 

[karlac]

Deleted

Turns out a few posts had been made and weren't showing.

Software glitch and timing out?

 

[Renegade]

Again, I did not quote you, had no intention of quoting you, knew exactly where the words came from, and specifically quoted Younggun's post.

No harm no foul. but the screenshot above explain where I am coming from.

On Net Neutrality, I am ... neutral. The future can be better, or worse. We will have to see.

 

[avvidclif]

Since 10 pages of debate is a moot point let's go shooting. I found a like new Glock 17 on another list and my brother picked it up for me. Now all I have to do is catch him to get it. He said he might have to try it out for me. Case , mags, etc, Night Sites, and soft trigger for $450