New Starbucks 'request' no guns. Is that effective notice?

[cpileri]

SO we have all heard that Starbucks is now requesting people leave their guns at home.
here:

http://www.starbucks.com/blog/an-open-letter-from-howard-schultz/1268

I read the letter from the starbucks CEO and he says it is not a ban, just a request.
Quote:
" this is a request and not an outright ban "


Is that request effective notice under 30.06?
or is it meaningless for the CHL holder in Texas Starbuck's?

Mr. Schultz, the CEO, does seem to be mainly referring to open carry, but his emphasized point, also quoted: " For these reasons, today we are respectfully requesting that customers no longer bring firearms into our stores or outdoor seating areas—even in states where “open carry” is permitted—unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel. "

I am not really a Starbucks person, but just want to know.
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[stanjones]

I guess that it makes sense...I doubt that pro-2nd amendment customers are the bulk of Starbuck's customer base. I would assume 90% of people in a Starbucks proudly associate themselves as "progressive". Only one way to deal with that sort of thing...dont go to Starbucks, dont buy starbucks products even at the grocery store...and take the extra time to spread the word that Starbuck's does not stand firm for the U.S. Constitution. Seriously, take EVERY opportunity to let people know where Starbuck's stands on individual rights of it's customers.

 

[London]

We are discussing this here:

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/news-articles/50953-starbucks.html

Mods, maybe a thread merge is in order?

 

[cpileri]

Up to the mods, i guess: but the other thread isnt really addressing the "effective notice" part.
Either way, seperate or merged, i'm good.
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[London]

As far as I'm aware there really isn't any case law to go off of, so it's anybody's guess. The request is vague enough to put it in a grey area as far as I am concerned. That alone is worth avoiding Starbucks IMO.

 

[stdreb27]

I wouldn't merge it. And I'm wondering as well... But I'm going to go with no otherwise any no gun sign would be effective notice...

 

[txinvestigator]

30.06 is specific about constitutes notice. The written notice does not constitute notice under penal code 30.06. I have not heard his speak, have you?

 

[cpileri]

Well, no I haven't actually heard him speak.

And he has never addressed me personally in any way, for that matter.

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[Das Jared]

No notice

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[Renegade]

Meaningless.

There is no evidence he owns any of the locations or has authority to act for the owners. I bet he does not even have keys to a single location. And as TXI points out, a blog post is not a card or written document.

 

[stdreb27]

Meaningless.

There is no evidence he owns any of the locations or has authority to act for the owners. I bet he does not even have keys to a single location. And as TXI points out, a blog post is not a card or written document.

Actually there is evidence he owns the locations, and as a CEO he'd have the authority to act on behalf of the corporation... As a corporation they're required to disclose their stock holdings in the company.

 

[TexasRedneck]

However - he "requested", did not say "do not" - devil is in the details. I can ASK you to leave my property, and it has no legal standing. If I TELL you to leave my property, you HAVE been put "on notice".

 

[cbigclarke]

However - he "requested", did not say "do not" - devil is in the details. I can ASK you to leave my property, and it has no legal standing. If I TELL you to leave my property, you HAVE been put "on notice".

make me old dude!!

 

[Whisky]

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for me it matters not - I've never purchased anything from an overpriced coffee brewer.....and I never will - never

 

[PPTerry]

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[Sapper740]

However - he "requested", did not say "do not" - devil is in the details. I can ASK you to leave my property, and it has no legal standing. If I TELL you to leave my property, you HAVE been put "on notice".

Oh believe this, whether I "ask" or "tell" you to leave my property, you'll be a-leavin'!

 

[TexasRedneck]

Oh believe this, whether I "ask" or "tell" you to leave my property, you'll be a-leavin'!

Feel manly now?

 

[Renegade]

Actually there is evidence he owns the locations, and as a CEO he'd have the authority to act on behalf of the corporation... As a corporation they're required to disclose their stock holdings in the company.

What evidence?

 

[Texan2]

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for me it matters not - I've never purchased anything from an overpriced coffee brewer.....and I never will - never

A cup of black coffee is cheaper at Starbucks than at Valero.

 

[Texan2]

take the extra time to spread the word that Starbuck's does not stand firm for the U.S. Constitution. Seriously, take EVERY opportunity to let people know where Starbuck's stands on individual rights of it's customers.

There is no constitutional right that says you can carry a gun on private property.

How is it they aren't standing firm on the Constitution?