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    STANFORD, Calif.--President Obama is planning to hand the U.S. Commerce Department authority over a forthcoming cybersecurity effort to create an Internet ID for Americans, a White House official said here today.

    It's "the absolute perfect spot in the U.S. government" to centralize efforts toward creating an "identity ecosystem" for the Internet, White House Cybersecurity Coordinator Howard Schmidt said.


    That news, first reported by CNET, effectively pushes the department to the forefront of the issue, beating out other potential candidates, including the National Security Agency and the Department of Homeland Security. The move also is likely to please privacy and civil-liberties groups that have raised concerns in the past over the dual roles of police and intelligence agencies.

    The announcement came at an event today at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, where U.S. Commerce Secretary Gary Locke and Schmidt spoke.

    The Obama administration is currently drafting what it's calling the National Strategy for Trusted Identities in Cyberspace, which Locke said will be released by the president in the next few months. (An early version was publicly released last summer.)

    "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy, and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."

    The Commerce Department will be setting up a national program office to work on this project, Locke said.

    Details about the "trusted identity" project are remarkably scarce. Last year's announcement referenced a possible forthcoming smart card or digital certificate that would prove that online users are who they say they are. These digital IDs would be offered to consumers by online vendors for financial transactions.

    Schmidt stressed today that anonymity and pseudonymity will remain possible on the Internet. "I don't have to get a credential, if I don't want to," he said. There's no chance that "a centralized database will emerge," and "we need the private sector to lead the implementation of this," he said.

    Jim Dempsey of the Center for Democracy and Technology, who spoke later at the event, said any Internet ID must be created by the private sector--and also voluntary and competitive.

    "The government cannot create that identity infrastructure," Dempsey said. "If it tried to, it wouldn't be trusted."

    Inter-agency rivalries to claim authority over cybersecurity have existed ever since many responsibilities were centralized in the Department of Homeland Security as part of its creation nine years ago. Three years ago, proposals were circulating in Washington to transfer authority to the secretive NSA, which is part of the U.S. Defense Department.

    In March 2009, Rod Beckström, director of Homeland Security's National Cybersecurity Center, resigned through a letter that gave a rare public glimpse into the competition for budgetary dollars and cybersecurity authority. Beckstrom said at the time that the NSA "effectively controls DHS cyberefforts through detailees, technology insertions," and has proposed moving some functions to the agency's Fort Meade, Md., headquarters.

    One of the NSA's missions is, of course, information assurance. But its normally lustrous star in the political firmament has dimmed a bit due to Wikileaks-related revelations.

    Bradley Manning, the U.S. Army private who is accused of liberating hundreds of thousands of confidential government documents from military networks and sending them to Wikileaks, apparently joked about the NSA's incompetence in an online chat last spring.

    "I even asked the NSA guy if he could find any suspicious activity coming out of local networks," Manning reportedly said in a chat transcript provided by ex-hacker Adrian Lamo. "He shrugged and said, 'It's not a priority.'"

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    Yeah, and think about how much easier it would be for criminals, or worst case a tyrannical government to destroy someone's life when literally all their bank and various other accounts are tied to one single ID.

    It wouldn't surprise me in the least if the new internet ID serial number begins with "666" lol.
     

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    The Big Picture is what I find disconcerting:
    Why Is The One Who Currently Holds the Office of The Presidency of The United States even IMAGINING the possibility of an "Internet ID" being assigned to a free people??????

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    Just wait till the RFID chip insertion gets going in clothing and other consumer goods soon. Life will get even more interesting then.....

    I heard they already do that in some of the nicer clothing stores, as soon as your wife walks in they know who what here shopping habits are.

    edit: looks like it's not just fancy places

    Beginning August 1, men’s blue jeans and underwear sold at Walmart will carry electronic radio identification tags. The company, the world’s largest retailer, insists the devices are crucial to improving the logistics of inventory management, while critics point to the privacy concerns associated with the tags.

    The markers in question, called radio-frequency identification (RFID) tags, are implanted in the garments and can be read by hand-held scanners. Wal-Mart officials praise the portability of the tags and the boost in speed and accuracy they bring to inventory control. “This ability to wave the wand and have a sense of all the products that are on the floor or in the back room in seconds is something that we feel can really transform our business,” crows Raul Vasquez, Wal-Mart’s representative for its stores in the western states.

    RFID tags are nothing new at Walmart (or many other retailers). Until now, however, the tags were chiefly used to track pallets of goods from factory to warehouse to the local outlet. After August 1, though, for the first time Walmart will bring the technology out of the storeroom and into the consumer’s pants — literally.
     

    Wolfwood

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    they already in your TXID cards
    if you have the gay looking new ones - that are alread national ID cards... the old ones say "texas" on them, these say "USA"

    simple fix for this is to microwave them for a few seconds. totally fries the damn things.
     

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    They say it's not a national ID card, they say it's not mandatory, they say there will be no central database, they save private industry will lead in implementation. So why are they doing it at the federal level? I think the answer is pretty obvious for anyone with an ounce of foresight.

     

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    Would never happen. They might as well try to brand or barcode people, we'll see how far that gets them.

    Ala Dark Angel, most likely...

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    They say it's not a national ID card, they say it's not mandatory, they say there will be no central database, they save private industry will lead in implementation. So why are they doing it at the federal level? I think the answer is pretty obvious for anyone with an ounce of foresight.


    It's odd, to me the same paragraph that mentioned all that was the most alarming part of the whole article, I even pulled it out to highlight it on another board. Then there are the people that read it take it at face value and completely let down their guard or chime in with some comment about how much easier everything will be. To the point of even defending this, it's like they are just marching us all to a place and people follow along with questioning anything.

    "We are not talking about a national ID card," Locke said at the Stanford event. "We are not talking about a government-controlled system. What we are talking about is enhancing online security and privacy, and reducing and perhaps even eliminating the need to memorize a dozen passwords, through creation and use of more trusted digital identities."
     

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    t1w2 To the point of even defending this, it's like they are just marching us all to a place and people follow along with questioning anything.
    Hence the term, "sheeple";
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    Well, where I come from, its cornbread and biscuits, and "Screw that Shiiaaaat". Can I say that?- sorry, i just did.
     

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    This would never work for many reasons. One very real one is that the Libs would INSIST that illegals and welfare recipients be given a pass - plus - Public libraries would have to provide free internet access to those who cannot afford it. Effectiveness - out the window!

    Luckily something like this will only get mired in partisan politics and never actually see a vote.
     

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    I heard they already do that in some of the nicer clothing stores, as soon as your wife walks in they know who what here shopping habits are.

    edit: looks like it's not just fancy places

    Beginning August 1, men’s blue jeans and underwear sold at Walmart will carry electronic radio identification tags. The company, the world’s largest retailer, insists the devices are crucial to improving the logistics of inventory management, while critics point to the privacy concerns associated with the tags.

    The markers in question, called radio-frequency identification (RFID) tags, are implanted in the garments and can be read by hand-held scanners. Wal-Mart officials praise the portability of the tags and the boost in speed and accuracy they bring to inventory control. “This ability to wave the wand and have a sense of all the products that are on the floor or in the back room in seconds is something that we feel can really transform our business,” crows Raul Vasquez, Wal-Mart’s representative for its stores in the western states.

    RFID tags are nothing new at Walmart (or many other retailers). Until now, however, the tags were chiefly used to track pallets of goods from factory to warehouse to the local outlet. After August 1, though, for the first time Walmart will bring the technology out of the storeroom and into the consumer’s pants — literally.

    The next step as it's already been outlined by retailers in the Wall Street Journal is within the next few years to combine RFID chips in consumer products with OLED display technology to place extremely affordable display screens throughout malls, stores, even dressing rooms and bathroom stalls so that each consumer can be constantly targeted with advertisements in order to purchase more when in stores. Frickin' disgusting and intrusive if you ask me.

    I'll go you one further and offer this (I'd add that I'm in no way a conspiracy theorist type either). When this RFID/advertising technology gets in full swing a decade or so from now, I'll guarantee you the federal government will end up passing legislation that makes it illegal to remove RFID chips from any item you purchase. If it gets to that point, what would you all do?
     

    Texan2

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    There will always a place to get non rfid clothing regardless of what DC passes. There will also be some big magnet or other piece of crap sold on ebay to sizzle the rfid gizmos. This is way down on my list of concerns.
     
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