Obama on Stay-at-home moms: 'That's Not a Choice We Want Americans to Make'

[matefrio]

We've made the choice to be a single income here as well.

Common Core does more to teach kids that their parents don't know how to do basic math and have a skewed view on history than any practical learning.

 

[Ole Cowboy]

We've made the choice to be a single income here as well.

Common Core does more to teach kids that their parents don't know how to do basic math and have a skewed view on history than any practical learning.

Common Core is common communism by any other name, run from it,,,

 

[jordanmills]

He can lick me where I pee.

 

[hellishhorses]

You guys that home-school ever look into any of the co-op programs?

I've talked about this before, but my wife is a teacher for a private home-school co-op and we've found that it provides a bit more than we could at home. Not so much in grammar school, but a bit more in logic and far more in rhetoric schools. They only meet twice a week (3x in upper levels) so the parents are still heavily involved in the instruction, but the teachers and instructors are a huge help with some of the more complicated material. The social interaction is also critical, especially during adolescence. Her school partners with a local university for lab time and other areas we wouldn't normally have access to. As well as some really top-notch math/science/language instructors — subjects many parents struggle with.

You may look in your area and see if programs like these are offered.

 

[breakingcontact]

I encourage everyone interested to explore non-public school options. There are increasingly more options and options nearly everyone can afford if they are willing.

 

[jordanmills]

You guys that home-school ever look into any of the co-op programs?

I've talked about this before, but my wife is a teacher for a private home-school co-op and we've found that it provides a bit more than we could at home. Not so much in grammar school, but a bit more in logic and far more in rhetoric schools. They only meet twice a week (3x in upper levels) so the parents are still heavily involved in the instruction, but the teachers and instructors are a huge help with some of the more complicated material. The social interaction is also critical, especially during adolescence. Her school partners with a local university for lab time and other areas we wouldn't normally have access to. As well as some really top-notch math/science/language instructors — subjects many parents struggle with.

You may look in your area and see if programs like these are offered.

Yep, it worked well for me when I was a kid, and it's working well for friends with kids now.

 

[hellishhorses]

I encourage everyone interested to explore non-public school options. There are increasingly more options and options nearly everyone can afford if they are willing.

Had a rather heated discussion with the wife's sister over the weekend regarding public schools and how they're all the same. She was claiming one district was superior to another — any difference is negligible. Good kids will be good even in bad schools and vice versa.

Of course this "woman" claiming her child was somehow too good for the district she currently lives in apparently isn't good enough for his 4-month vaccinations, or air-conditioning in the car this summer, or his own bedroom in their one-bedroom apartment.

 

[breakingcontact]

Had a rather heated discussion with the wife's sister over the weekend regarding public schools and how they're all the same. She was claiming one district was superior to another — any difference is negligible. Good kids will be good even in bad schools and vice versa.

Of course this "woman" claiming her child was somehow too good for the district she currently lives in apparently isn't good enough for his 4-month vaccinations, or air-conditioning in the car this summer, or his own bedroom in their one-bedroom apartment.

They arent all horrible. But even the "good ones" are just mediocre. Austin is 100% ridiculous when it comes to people considering schools good or bad capriciously and often based on.... sports! Also there is a lot of covert racism expressed when people call a school good or not. Good= white. Bad= brown/black. The actual best public schools are full of Chinese/Koreans and Indians and why is that? Because their families value education of course.

Fortunately there are increasingly more charter and private schools and people choosing to home school.

Schools in small towns or out in the country (where I went to public school and where I worked in a public school) arent typically full of socialists working against the family and country. However, what they usually are is just mediocre. People may call them good schools as they are mostly white and usually have less drug/violence issues but that doesn't make them good.

That valuable time kids spend in "good" public schools could be spent in a much more encouraging and productive environment which reflects the values at home and not the world.

 

[TX69]

Not voting Demonrat this year?

 

[hellishhorses]

They arent all horrible. But even the "good ones" are just mediocre. Austin is 100% ridiculous when it comes to people considering schools good or bad capriciously and often based on.... sports! Also there is a lot of covert racism expressed when people call a school good or not. Good= white. Bad= brown/black. The actual best public schools are full of Chinese/Koreans and Indians and why is that? Because their families value education of course.

Fortunately there are increasingly more charter and private schools and people choosing to home school.

Schools in small towns or out in the country (where I went to public school and where I worked in a public school) arent typically full of socialists working against the family and country. However, what they usually are is just mediocre. People may call them good schools as they are mostly white and usually have less drug/violence issues but that doesn't make them good.

That valuable time kids spend in "good" public schools could be spent in a much more encouraging and productive environment which reflects the values at home and not the world.

That's the point I was trying to make with her. She has this assumption that because the school she graduated from is mostly white-bread and the cross-town rival (district she currently lives in) is more diverse, that somehow it's inferior. But when you look at the teen pregnancy, drop-out, graduation, and academic scholarship rates her logic is flawed and in those regards her preferred school is actually the loser. My argument was that I went to a rather small school and even there the teachers were responsible for teaching me relatively little.

I learned the things I learned because I was interested in learning them and my parents demanded it — distractions or not. My stepdad (as big a jerk as he was) put a great deal of emphasis on not becoming an idiot. Many kids in public schools do not have that support system or structure in their lives. At least in non-public school formats, you can be fairly certain that those kids do.

Before my wife got her current position she was coming from a low-income, high-single-parent, brown/black school. During the interview, she asked the principal about several distractions and discipline issues she dealt with on a regular basis. To her surprise, his response was unanimously "you won't have those problems here", and she hasn't. In her three years there her most severe reprimand was for a kid saying "crap" or "fart" or "sucks" (something really terrible). The mother, also a teacher there, demanded he apologize to the entire class and especially to the three little girls that heard him.

 

[Saltyag2010]

He just wants "quality" education for the children. That comes from government not parents or the church in his worldview.

I went K-B.S. in public schools. They didn't get close to brainwashing me. They tried, I didn't listen. It's cheaper and you get out what you put in. The wife went to catholic school k-8. Brainwashed and sheltered even through high school.

Family has more to do with their kids than schools do. Put in the time.

 

[breakingcontact]

I went K-B.S. in public schools. They didn't get close to brainwashing me. They tried, I didn't listen. It's cheaper and you get out what you put in. The wife went to catholic school k-8. Brainwashed and sheltered even through high school.

Family has more to do with their kids than schools do. Put in the time.

I said the same. Much easier if the educational instituition works with, supports and reinforces what is taught at home instead of working against it or just being neutral.

 

[hellishhorses]

I said the same. Much easier if the educational instituition works with, supports and reinforces what is taught at home instead of working against it or just being neutral.

+1

I've said the biggest contributors to a child's success, in order are:

1. Parents
2. Child
3. Community
4. School

I don't put much emphasis on the school by itself, but I definitely want to put my kids in a place — be it church, school, gym, etc. — that harbors an ideology that make it easier for my kids to succeed. And I don't think public school offers that anymore.

 

[Saltyag2010]

I said the same. Much easier if the educational instituition works with, supports and reinforces what is taught at home instead of working against it or just being neutral.

This new core thing in the schools is the reason school funding should be cut. It wouldn't fly in a class I was in. If you work in an office or can listen to Corpus Christi radio tune into KSIX on 1200 96.1 or 103.3 from 5:30-9. Eric Von Wade show talks about core once a week with a concerned mother/guest that's running for county clerk. He has some very American views.

Im personally against tenure and additional school funding especially from the Feds. Schools should be locally funded and locally ran. Tenure coddles bad teachers. Bad teachers push bad policy and slows learning in our schools/junior colleges/universities.

Families can can help keep kids learning everyday and developing into responsible adults. This involves knowing what their kids are learning and being concerned and vocal if their kids are being led astray. I think most parents are more worried about drugs and guns than if their teachers are making them into anti-American, anti-freedom or irresponsible/bad people

 

[Mike1234567]

I'm not an Obama fan... not a fan of any politicians except maybe Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. But I didn't take what O said literally. In fact, if I comprehended the whole speech correctly, what I believe he meant was, "It's not a choice we want them to be 'forced' to make". Okay... burn me now... I'm ready for it.

 

[jrbfishn]

Most people don't realize that through most of our history, even stay at home moms had to do something to bring in extra money. I know mine did.


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[breakingcontact]

Most people don't realize that through most of our history, even stay at home moms had to do something to bring in extra money. I know mine did.


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Im not sure who doesnt realize that. Women used to take in sewing, cook or clean for others and things like that.

 

[hellishhorses]

I'm not an Obama fan... not a fan of any politicians except maybe Rand Paul and Ted Cruz. But I didn't take what O said literally. In fact, if I comprehended the whole speech correctly, what I believe he meant was, "It's not a choice we want them to be 'forced' to make". Okay... burn me now... I'm ready for it.

I heard the same thing, but it did open the conversation for me to provide my six or seven cents...

BUUUUUUUUTTTTTT big government DOESN'T want mom's raising their own children. That's the government's job.

 

[jrbfishn]

I lost track of all the hats Mom wore while growing up while being at home. Never understood till I was a single dad raising 3 boys. Gained a whole new respect for women like her.


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[TheDan]

They just want more brainwashed kids and more tax payers.

That's the crux of it. Kids raised by government schools are more likely to turn into statists.

...and people wonder why government pre-k is a bad idea.