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Photos show bullet damage to plane

Discussion in 'News Articles' started by slim jim, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. slim jim

    slim jim Official News Guy

    Mar 18, 2008
  2. 300shooter

    300shooter Active Member

    Mar 6, 2008
    see a small hole in a Plane will not cause a major sucking out of crew or passengers.

    the Myth busters proofed that .

    I am glad it was a minor thing, but I hope this doesn't send the wrong message about Pilots and guns
  3. Acesn8's

    Acesn8's Well-Known

    Mar 21, 2008
    Llano county
    I was under the impression that Air Marshals and Pilots used frangible
    ammunition like Glaser Safety Slug or SinterFire .
    SinterFire - Frangible Bullets
  4. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    "It's a top-of-the-line model," Scott said. "They're accurate and highly reliable. This is not something that you would just walk into a gun store and buy. And it's also not something that goes off by itself. ... Someone would have to squeeze the trigger."

    So-called expert said that, lol.

    It's a USP40 full size. There's nothing fancy about it, and just about every major gun store will have one.
  5. idleprocess

    idleprocess Active Member

    Feb 29, 2008
    I can read that statement two ways. The first is the (obviously false) assertion that the H&K USP is not available to the general public. The second is reinforcing that it's not some cheap gun prone to just "going off" on its own.
  6. JKTex

    JKTex Well-Known

    Mar 11, 2008
    DFW, North Texas
    That comment caught my eye also. My 1st thought was that he was an "expert" speaking on behalf of the airline with one goal; damage control.

    I didn't read that it wasn't available to the public, although I 2nd guessed it and jumped on line to see if they were in some way more difficult to find. Nope, so I guess at some level, I wondered if that's what he meant.

    I tend to see it more as idleprocess does.

    I take away that it's not something the average person will just run out and buy on a whim. I don't know the stats for gun sales, but I'd bet that the average cost of handguns sold is pretty low; lower end guns < $500. Or maybe he's trying to distinguish that it's something special, that take time and research and an extra effort to buy because of cost. Non-gun owners probably have no idea decent hand guns cost $500 to $1000 to start, and you know that's who they are singing to. Gun owners "will" just pick one up if the mood hits them. We're sick people that way. :D

    I'd be interested to know exactly what happened. I'd bet it was something stupid that will be a career ender.... But I understand their training is pretty extensive. I know a Delta pilot who went through it and now carries, but he's ex-military too. He also admitted that the main reason he did it was to pass security checks as holding a Federal license, he gets special treatment and walks right around. ;)
  7. SIG_Fiend

    SIG_Fiend Administrator TGT Supporter Admin

    Feb 21, 2008
    Austin, TX
    As far as I'm aware, from what I remember of a gun mag article I read awhile back I believe standard federal air marshal issued guns are USP .40 compacts with the LEM trigger (DAO). Here's what I don't get, the guy shouldn't have been "fiddling" around with his sidearm. Obviously guns don't go off by themselves so it's the marshall's fault without a doubt.

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