Pocket carry is illegal in my vehicle?

[nickgibson72]

There is no duty to notify in Texas.
I believe you mentioned initially that you not only have an LTC but also that you are an LTC instructor.
Pardon my direct question but isn't this information that any LTC holder and also all instructors should know?
I do not intend this to be a mean question, it is just a question. I thought all instructors knew the penal code by heart. (yes, I know it is long but I mean the relevant paragraphs)

I would suggest learning the laws yourself before trying to correct someone else on those same laws. Just a suggestion

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

FNG snark...

There is no duty to notify!

 

[ZX9RCAM]

 

[nickgibson72]

FNG snark...

There is no duty to notify!

Want to try that again?

 

[Axxe55]

Pass that popcorn Cam!

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Read the fine print: "When a magistrate or peace officer DEMANDS"...but. you don't have to 'notify' up front - only if demanded, then yes you must produce DL and LTC.

There was a time in the past when if stopped by an LEO and you were carrying with what was then called a CHL you were required to notify - that requirement is no longer if effect.

 

[DoubleDuty]

No sir that is not true. That did not change when it became an LTC. It is still a requirement.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

BS!

Some here may recall pissing off some LEO's when you proffered your DL plus your CHL - Who sometimes would chuck your CHL back at you and tell you "If I wanted to see that, I'd ask"...

There is no 'upfront' requirement any longer to notify, however, if you're carrying,have an LTC and the officer wants to see your LTC yes, you must produce it.

Many of the laws regarding carrying have evolved over the years as such as the time when it was illegal on it's face to carry into a hospital, now it's only illegal if it's marked with a 30.06 sign and on and on...

 

[BBL]

I would suggest learning the laws yourself before trying to correct someone else on those same laws. Just a suggestion

I learned the laws. Which is why I understand that there is no duty to notify how many weapons you carry on you or in your vehicle. That's what we were talking about so I guess I was not clear about that, sorry.
You are implying that there is duty to notify about your license. While I disagree with the wording, you are right that we need to produce our license when being ID-ed. But there is no more penalty for failure to produce an LTC.

 

[BBL]

Wrong. There is no penalty for failing to do so, but there still is a duty to notify!

We weren't talking about the LTC but the HW instead. But you are right, we are required to produce our LTC when being ID-ed. (with no penalty anymore)

 

[majormadmax]

We weren't talking about the LTC but the HW instead. But you are right, we are required to produce our LTC when being ID-ed. (with no penalty anymore)

We weren't?!?

I was just pulled over. I notified Trooper that I had guns on me and in the truck(I was gonna test some guns after my driving shift at the border). He told me I was about to get an education. Trooper told me that I couldn't pocket carry. Not in public and not in my truck. I told him I wouldn't be in public if he hadn't made me stand in the street. He said all guns must be holstered unless new in their box. I asked if my range bag was acceptable and he said no. I have an LTC and I'm an LTC instructor, but he said I was wrong. I googled it and even looked at my handbook, but maybe I'm not understanding. I thought only open carried guns needed a shoulder/belt holster?

FYI - The pocket gun was empty. My actual EDC was a holstered VP9SK. Other guns in my range bag were projects.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I was just pulled over. I notified Trooper that I had guns on me and in the truck(I was gonna test some guns after my driving shift at the border). He told me I was about to get an education. Trooper told me that I couldn't pocket carry. Not in public and not in my truck. I told him I wouldn't be in public if he hadn't made me stand in the street. He said all guns must be holstered unless new in their box. I asked if my range bag was acceptable and he said no. I have an LTC and I'm an LTC instructor, but he said I was wrong. I googled it and even looked at my handbook, but maybe I'm not understanding. I thought only open carried guns needed a shoulder/belt holster?

FYI - The pocket gun was empty. My actual EDC was a holstered VP9SK. Other guns in my range bag were projects.

This cop was totally incorrect. Your gun only needs to be in a holster if being carried openly. And you can openly carry it any way you want. The belt and shoulder holster requirement was dropped. Concealed carry in a holster or not. Personally i carry in a holster so i dont put holes in my body parts

 

[rotor]

This cop was totally incorrect. Your gun only needs to be in a holster if being carried openly. And you can openly carry it any way you want. The belt and shoulder holster requirement was dropped. Concealed carry in a holster or not. Personally i carry in a holster so i dont put holes iny body parts

You are correct and op has now been notified multiple times.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I know I am old and forget

 

[SickSilverado]

You guys have been helpful. Thanks for all the replies.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Lesson learned just place your guns on the seat and be good to go. Cops are Not gun control officers and so many of them know nothing of the laws pertaining much less know guns in general other then what they were taught about their carry weapons. Sad but true.

 

[rotor]

Lesson learned just place your guns on the seat and be good to go. Cops are Not gun control officers and so many of them know nothing of the laws pertaining much less know guns in general other then what they were taught about their carry weapons. Sad but true.

Are you suggesting placing the guns on a seat visible (therefore open carry) without a holster?

 

[Lonesome Dove]

It's comon practice don't know what else to tell ya.

 

[rotor]

It's comon practice don't know what else to tell ya.

You mean common. Open carry now requires a holster. Put it in a holster and lay it on your seat visible and it is legal.

 

[Shady]

Lesson learned just place your guns on the seat and be good to go. Cops are Not gun control officers and so many of them know nothing of the laws pertaining much less know guns in general other then what they were taught about their carry weapons. Sad but true.

and I thought it was if its not on you it has to be out of sight if its in your car.