President Obama

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Chat' started by Hobie Dog, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. Hobie Dog

    Hobie Dog Member

    Feb 24, 2008
    San Marcos, Texas
    I know many here don't want to get in to politics but I wanted to share an experience that was very enjoyable and informative. Hopefully no one will be offended.

    Living in San Marcos I was nearly trampled tonight leaving the gym by college students running to get in to a venue to hear Obama. He was scheduled to speak 5 hours later. Being a college town the celebrity type enthusiasm is amazing.

    At a local restaurant last night I stumbled in to his local campaign manager. A very bright young (unemployed) college graduate with a great personality. We had a delightful conversation. He determined quickly that I am a "White Angry Christian Conservative". He was dead on.

    He begged me to attend tonights speech so I could see how wonderful his candidate is. I said I would pass since I know he is a great speaker but clueless on the issues. So, we discussed some issues. I thought you would "enjoy" some of the conversation. I will only hit a few highlights since the conversation was 2 hours long.

    Me: What is the most important issue?
    Him: Immediate pull out of Iraq.

    Me: So the first day in office?
    Him: Definitely

    Me: So after we throw up the white flag where are we going to battle the enemy?
    Him: What enemy?

    Me: So, what is his intent on the defense budget?
    Him: Cut 1/2 to 2/3 out immediately. It's a waste of money to have all that spy stuff, satellites, CIA, etc.

    Me: Does it bother you that people that want to kill us are coming across the border in droves?
    Him: Do you believe that?

    Me: What is his stand on health care?
    Him: Everyone should have access to health care.

    Me: They do now. A hospital can not turn away someone based on ability to pay.
    Him: Oh, I didn't know that.

    Me: How will he pay for this?
    Him: Raise taxes on the wealthy. They can afford it. And, after all, it's a small percentage and the rest of us will never make it to the American dream.

    Him: Are you a conservative, independent or republican?
    Me: Conservative
    Him: Would you ever cross over and vote Democrat
    Me: NEVER
    Him: Why?
    Me: Because I cannot vote for anyone that would align themselves with a party that condones a total lack of integrity or moral standards.
    Him: True, but there are some Republicans that are sleazy too.
    Me: But the party doesn't condone them.
    Him: True

    I really like this young man. He just needs to grow up a little, as do millions of voters. I'm taking him fishing this spring. We'll have fun debating.

  2. MrKimber44

    MrKimber44 Member

    Feb 22, 2008
    I don't think the US is really ready for Obama or Clinton.
  3. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    Sounds like he is just confused and has the classic signs of our younger generation (my generation). As much as I'd like to believe in flowers, butterflies, and green pastures the rest of the world is full of knieving people that would kill a village of people in a heartbeat for either a dollar or another 1/8" of power. Alot of times that village is us, and we need to be able to use all that "CIA, Spy stuff" in order to recognize the threats and deal with them before they get off the ground.

    Sometimes we do things wrong, sometimes we fail, but doing something is better than plugging our ears and waiting for the bullet.
  4. SIG_Fiend

    SIG_Fiend Administrator TGT Supporter Admin

    Feb 21, 2008
    Austin, TX
    I've said this before and I'll say it again. Personally, I think it would be kind of cool to have a president of the African-American or female persuasion. I think it could be nice for a change. Unfortunately for the 2 candidates that currently fit this description, they both have horrible views on most of the issues facing our country, and most of their policies and liberal views would be harmful to our country IMO. Also, some of their views are just downright ridiculous such as instantly pulling out of Iraq. It's moves like that that have made us enemies around the world. We've already done the damage in Iraq, and as far as I'm concerned we need to assist the Iraqi government until it is strong enough to handle things on it's own before we can realistically start pulling out. Pulling out too early could cause a big uprising in insurgency, which could lead to a drastic increase in attacks, deaths, and who knows maybe an overthrow of the current Iraqi government and a new dictator taking over. Things are just not so simple in real life that you can one day just say "Well, it's been fun but, we're out of here!".

    As far as the whole increase taxes for the wealthy to pay for the less fortunate, this is just a completely ridiculous idea and goes completely against what this country is supposed to be about. I have heard a lot of less than wealthy individuals automatically side with this view as well without realizing the facts and certainly for somewhat selfish reasons. I really wish I had saved the article I read, but someone made some excellent points about at least Hillary Clinton's proposed tax programs. I don't remember the exact details but on say an estate worth $7 million, it would be taxed something like $3-4 million, which is just absolutely ridiculous. People need to get off their lazy @sses, get out there, and actually try to be successful rather than catching a break on the backs of others. Successful and wealthy people already pay a heck of a lot more in taxes than those considerably less wealthy.
  5. Hobie Dog

    Hobie Dog Member

    Feb 24, 2008
    San Marcos, Texas
    I forgot one question I asked him

    Me: Do you believe Bin-Laden, Chavez, etc. are watching the campaign on CNN?
    Him: Yes
    Me: Who do you think they want to win?
    Him: The Democrats

    Enough Said.
  6. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    I had a Yankee lady from Obama's campaign call the house yesterday. They are calling everyone I think because there has never been a democrat in this house.
  7. drricktx

    drricktx New Member

    Feb 25, 2008
    San Marcos, TX

    I'm not being facetious at all with this question. Can anyone tell me one single thing that Obama has accomplished thus far in his political career? What has he done to deserve the right to be our next president? I'd have no problem at all voting for a black or female if they matched my criteria for making a good president. Hillary and Obama doesn't even come close.
  8. XTPHP1

    XTPHP1 New Member

    Why is Obama and Hillary already slated as the POTUS? It is still months away before the election. Anything can happen. Obama will have to start explaining his "Change" and how he plans to pay for it. Same with that bitch Hillary.
  9. Texas1911

    Texas1911 TGT Addict

    May 29, 2017
    Austin, TX
    Because the media is predominantly liberal ran.
  10. thebuckhuntress

    thebuckhuntress New Member

    Feb 28, 2008
    Dexter, Iowa
    Sounds like they should have picked a different person to represent him!

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