Question for our police officers - how many traffiic stops per arrest?

[M. Sage]

Some of my friends in CA showed me an article where a "DUI and ID checkpoint" out there netted one arrest (article doesn't say for what, it might have been a warrant or it could have been DUI) out of 504 cars. The night before in the same area, they had no arrests out of over 500 cars...

So I'm wondering what the numbers look like for routine traffic stops. How many arrests would you guys expect out of 1000 traffic stops?

From previous conversations, I'd expect a lot better than .1%...

 

[M. Sage]

Ok, I kinda sorta found an answer (good enough one, anyway) in a book that's apparently about racial profiling. Seems that around 4% of traffic stops end in an arrest.

Does that sound right? About 4 stops out of 100?

 

[Texas1911]

It would depend on their shift ... I guarantee you that APD is rocking way more than 4% on most nights.

 

[Bithabus]

Some of my friends in CA showed me an article where a "DUI and ID checkpoint" out there netted one arrest (article doesn't say for what, it might have been a warrant or it could have been DUI) out of 504 cars. The night before in the same area, they had no arrests out of over 500 cars...

So I'm wondering what the numbers look like for routine traffic stops. How many arrests would you guys expect out of 1000 traffic stops?

From previous conversations, I'd expect a lot better than .1%...

It would stand to reason the numbers in TX are higher than those numbers for suspicionless stops in CA

 

[Younggun]

the republic of kalifornia has almost no crime becouse they have such strict gun control, .1% is actually very high there. They don't have all the gangs and random violence or drugs like us.

 

[Texan2]

Ok, I kinda sorta found an answer (good enough one, anyway) in a book that's apparently about racial profiling. Seems that around 4% of traffic stops end in an arrest.

Does that sound right? About 4 stops out of 100?

Very hard to get an accurate number without lots of research but the 4%-5% range sounds about right.

 

[espy59lc]

Shit, if they did that here on a night in SA for DUI Checkpoint, they wouldn't have room to put all the drunk drivers! Probably a lot of warrant arrests too.

 

[lalonguecarabine]

Not 100%?

You mean there's no more departments around with the motto "If you hook 'em, you book 'em!"?

 

[Texan2]

Shit, if they did that here on a night in SA for DUI Checkpoint, they wouldn't have room to put all the drunk drivers! Probably a lot of warrant arrests too.

SA drunk driving numbers are insane. Some of the highest in the nation. I avoid driving in SA on Friday and Saturday night if possible.

 

[Dcav]

SA drunk driving numbers are insane. Some of the highest in the nation. I avoid driving in SA on Friday and Saturday night if possible.

Agreed, just the insane amount of wrong way drunk drivers is unsettling. SAPD do report several arrests a weekend for it, but there is also generally an crash or two related to the same problem as well.

 

[M. Sage]

Actually, if you look at the ratets for alcohol related fatalities state by state, you can't tell which ones run DUI checkpoints and which ones don't.

Our Chief of Police here in San Antonio wants Texas to pass a DUI checkpoint law. I think he'd be happier working for TSA...

Very hard to get an accurate number without lots of research but the 4%-5% range sounds about right.

That's pretty much what I was looking for. Just a general idea.

 

[Texan2]

Our Chief of Police here in San Antonio wants Texas to pass a DUI checkpoint law. I think he'd be happier working for TSA...

He is a yankee.....nuf said.

 

[M. Sage]

He is a yankee.....nuf said.

Can we send him back?

 

[Kimber_me_timbers]

the republic of kalifornia has almost no crime becouse they have such strict gun control, .1% is actually very high there. They don't have all the gangs and random violence or drugs like us.

Dude, tell me thats just sarcasm...

 

[Texan2]

Can we send him back?

At the end of the day the consensus is that he is still better than what was there before him. He just needs some educating....

 

[Texas42]

Agreed, just the insane amount of wrong way drunk drivers is unsettling. SAPD do report several arrests a weekend for it, but there is also generally an crash or two related to the same problem as well.

+1

Like friggen clockwork. When I was on trauma call on Friday or Saturday. Something bad always came in between 0130-0230. . . .the bars close at 0200.

Daylight savings time in the fall was a bad, bad day.

Interestingly enough and playing devil's advocate, there is a lot of evidence to support the use of DUI checkpoints. There is the obvious constitutional hurdles (which many states seem to jump with no difficulty. . . weird).

 

[M. Sage]

Dude, tell me thats just sarcasm...

Pretty obvious that it was.

Interestingly enough and playing devil's advocate, there is a lot of evidence to support the use of DUI checkpoints. There is the obvious constitutional hurdles (which many states seem to jump with no difficulty. . . weird).

I've looked and can't find the evidence. Drunk driving fatality rates among the 38 states that allow them aren't really any different from the rest.

The Constitutional hurdle was decided by the Supreme Court. If you read their decision in the matter, they say flat-out that while the checkpoints violate your 4th Amendment rights, the Supremes are going to allow it for a few reasons, among them that states have "an interest" (WTF?) in preventing drunk driving and that DUI checkpoints have been proven to "work", even though they don't.

The checkpoint in the article my friend sent me did 19 sobriety tests, with one arrest and the article doesn't even say that arrest was for DUI. Let's assume it was. Less than 1% arrest rate, 18 wasted sobriety checks, how many police effectively off the streets for half their shift? The night before, the same department ran a checkpoint that had zero arrests out of over 500 cars. That puts their two day arrest/stop rate at under 0.1%.

They work? Don't think so.

 

[OldCurlyWolf]

Can we send him back?

If you can convince the City Council/Mayor to can him. Or if you can convince him to quit.

 

[Glockster69]

Dude, tell me thats just sarcasm...

WOW! Just a big-o-fat WOW!

 

[lalonguecarabine]

Dude, tell me thats just sarcasm...

Dude!

That post was just dripping with sarcasm! Like a greasy pizza from the mall!