Questions on selling a handgun

[Old Arn]

I'm about to put my Seecamp up for sale, but I have a few questions before I do. Where can I find the laws on FTF sales? I've tried Google, but all I can find concerns TX residents buying in contiguous states, and not selling to anyone who is intoxicated/drunk/underage etc. Is that it?

Also, if I did a FTF sale, let's say at the next Saxet Show, could I simply go up to one of the vendors to do a NICS check? I know that TX (or VA, where I'm from) doesn't require this or any paperwork for a private FTF sale, but I'd rather pony up a few dollars to be sure about who I'm selling to. Unless they show me a valid TX CHL, that is. What do you guys use as a bill of sale?

Thanks in advance.

Arnold

 

[Shorts]

Arnold, when stationed in WA (same FTF laws) we wrote up a general bill of sale, a copy for us and a copy to the other party. We also took a look at each other's carry permit and DL.

If you do want to go ahead and get an FFL to do a 4473, I'm sure you could do that. Under TX state law, it isn't necessary. You're only in trouble if you "knowingly and intentionally" sell/rent/leases/gives...

PENAL CODE TITLE 10. OFFENSES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND MORALS CHAPTER 46. WEAPONS

 

[kingofwylietx]

In Texas, you can do a FTF without any paperwork. You pretty much listed the folks you are not supposed to sell to, just add probably felons. You're totally ready to go if they have a CHL.

As for a check on them........that's not normal for a FTF.

If you want to cover your rear, you can do a bill of sale. What was sold to who, serial number and date. Have them sign it and keep the receipt for your records. In Texas, if a trooper comes knocking, you just have to say you sold it. However, a lot of people write something up so they have something concret.

 

[nalioth]

If you must, all you have to do is find a FFL holder and hand him the pistol and ask that a background check and 4473 be done on it. The FFL holder will ask you for your information, and then you're done with it. Get your money at this point from the buyer.

The buyer can pay the FFL holders fee.


I've not ever done this on any FTF sale.

 

[Mark F]

FFL isn't necessary. Just write up a BOS for you & the buyer. And even a BOS is optional.

 

[txinvestigator]

I believe that a FFL is not allowed to run a NICS unless it is for a firearm he is selling.

 

[nalioth]

I believe that a FFL is not allowed to run a NICS unless it is for a firearm he is selling.

No sir.

That would put all transfer dealers out of business or have them operating illegally.

 

[JKTex]

It's great that you want to go to the extra effort to make sure you're selling to someone that is not prohibited to buy or posses, but make it easy on yourself. Either sell to someone you know well enough to be comfortable with, or just have an FFL do the transfer. $20-$25 and an FFL can complete the transfer and it's out of your hands.

Otherwise, as said, in Texas you just need to not knowingly sell to someone that is prohibited from buying. There isn't any burden on you to do any fancy footwork to prove anything.

Hint, if they have on matching striped outfit and remnants of shackles on their ankles or cuffs on their wrists, you might want to look for another buyer. Otherwise, you're good.

 

[40Arpent]

How much do you want for the Seecamp? I have a friend looking for one.

Feel free to e-mail me at peterichard at peoplepc dot com.

Thanks,

Pete

 

[txinvestigator]

No sir.

That would put all transfer dealers out of business or have them operating illegally.

I didn't think about that. Nice catch.