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SCOTUS 2A Victory: NYSRA v Bruen
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With the way the Obama administration and now the Biden administration have made the agencies of the DOJ political arms of the democratic party, that's about like saying the Gestapo and SS should have fought against the human rights atrocities that were happening in Nazi Germany.
If our government wasn't afraid of the push back of us citizens, we would be under an authoritarian regime right now, SCOTUS be damned.
No, I suggest not endorsing the tyrannical actions of leftists. It's meaningless now that we have Constitutional carry, but before when we limited carry to permit holders only, we endorsed their anti-2A posture. We should never have restricted carry among visitors from CA to those privileged few who have been given carry permits from that leftist regime, because that is an implicit endorsement of their behavior.
Reason #4962.b to have Constitutional carry.
I would rather you replace we with Texas, for I, and probably many others here, have been against permits since we grasped the meaning of the Constitution.
Axxe55
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If you have to pay to exercise a right, it's no longer a right, but a privilege afforded to a few, and not everyone.
The only reason I have an LTC now is out of convenience. Don't have to wait on a background check at the FFL and reciprocity with other states like New Mexico.
Isn’t it still your ticket for work? I didn’t think permitless carry went that far.
You're probably right. I haven't looked into any changes to campus carry since constitutional carry came to be.
We've now got the first post-Bruen decision on magazine and firearms bans. The case is Rocky Mountain Gun Owners v. Superior.
It's a district court in Colorado (which has gone further and further left) and perhaps most interestingly, the judge is an Obama appointee. Also interesting is that the lawyer challenging the law primarily practices education law. A big benefit here -- you don't have to be a 2A specialist to win important 2A cases anymore.
Anyways, random Colorado town passes California-like bans on ARs, and bans on magazines with over 10 rounds, and this judge grants a TRO (temporary restraining order) against both laws, which means that LE is not allowed to enforce either law until the TRO is lifted, and the judge generally won't lift the TRO until higher courts have ruled on the issue.
The judge wrote:
which is solid, post-Bruen thinking. I would have preferred the judge said "founding-era historical precedent", but let's give him the benefit of the doubt and pretend that's what he meant. There actually are at least two Reconstruction-era laws allowing bans on firearms, but they were intended to keep firearms away from freed black slaves, so no court nor lawyer would ever cite them, except to note how they must be ignored.
This case is the first case nationally to result in a judicial opinion, and it is persuasive (but not binding) precedent everywhere in the nation. This is a Good Thing, folks. Not great, but good. In Texas hold-em, the flop just went our way.
This probably rolls up to the 10th Circuit fairly soon. Obama did a lot of damage to the 10th, half the circuit judges there are leftists he appointed. The composition of the 3 judge panel that hears this case is obviously very important. It's a coin flip as to which side will have the majority.
The decision of the 10th will be of major importance, because bans similar to these from California, New Jersey and Maryland have all been kicked down to their respective circuits for fresh decisions since Bruen came out, and a pro-2A decision from the 10th will provide big momentum from our side to persuade the other circuits to agree. If we're keeping with the Texas hold-em analogy, that would be the turn card also going our way.
And if they disagree, well, disagreements among the circuit courts are supposed to be the primary focus of SCOTUS, and I think most of us are very confident how they will resolve this matter, given the strong wording of Bruen, and that's the river card clinching the victory.
It's a district court in Colorado (which has gone further and further left) and perhaps most interestingly, the judge is an Obama appointee. Also interesting is that the lawyer challenging the law primarily practices education law. A big benefit here -- you don't have to be a 2A specialist to win important 2A cases anymore.
Anyways, random Colorado town passes California-like bans on ARs, and bans on magazines with over 10 rounds, and this judge grants a TRO (temporary restraining order) against both laws, which means that LE is not allowed to enforce either law until the TRO is lifted, and the judge generally won't lift the TRO until higher courts have ruled on the issue.
The judge wrote:
which is solid, post-Bruen thinking. I would have preferred the judge said "founding-era historical precedent", but let's give him the benefit of the doubt and pretend that's what he meant. There actually are at least two Reconstruction-era laws allowing bans on firearms, but they were intended to keep firearms away from freed black slaves, so no court nor lawyer would ever cite them, except to note how they must be ignored.
This case is the first case nationally to result in a judicial opinion, and it is persuasive (but not binding) precedent everywhere in the nation. This is a Good Thing, folks. Not great, but good. In Texas hold-em, the flop just went our way.
This probably rolls up to the 10th Circuit fairly soon. Obama did a lot of damage to the 10th, half the circuit judges there are leftists he appointed. The composition of the 3 judge panel that hears this case is obviously very important. It's a coin flip as to which side will have the majority.
The decision of the 10th will be of major importance, because bans similar to these from California, New Jersey and Maryland have all been kicked down to their respective circuits for fresh decisions since Bruen came out, and a pro-2A decision from the 10th will provide big momentum from our side to persuade the other circuits to agree. If we're keeping with the Texas hold-em analogy, that would be the turn card also going our way.
And if they disagree, well, disagreements among the circuit courts are supposed to be the primary focus of SCOTUS, and I think most of us are very confident how they will resolve this matter, given the strong wording of Bruen, and that's the river card clinching the victory.
California commies bobbing and weaving their way around Federal laws. Their socialist judges are chomping at the bit to get these bills passed that contain just enough subjectivity to warrant rulings against manufacturers and suppliers. Trump’s fence should include walling off California.
Axxe55
Retiretgtshit stirrer
Kind of ironic that they expected the courts to uphold rulings when they were in their favor, but now they are all upset because the courts went against them.
Phuck California and New York and all the Democrats for good measure.
Yes citing tourism fears as the number one reason.
Having first hand experience, and going through the licensing process in NYs. I can say that NY is basically disregarding SCOUS decision. There is no clear way for one to change their license to fill carry. People are told to apply for an amendment and wait. It’s a complete shit show. Even if you somehow manage to get a carry, based on the new laws and restricted locations, for example all private property is considered a restrictive/no carry unless the owner posts otherwise. Essentially one can carry from their home to their car.
Happens from one to 3 million times. These dems are just plain lying scum.
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