Shooters Den (ABQ New Mexico) wrongfully takes customer’s gun

[tonelar]

20 yr old takes Polymer 80 in for a magazine and holster. Gun store dude thinks it’s ILLEGAL to not have a serial number. Takes gun and will report to ATF.
Must be something in the water up there.

 

[Axxe55]

many guns manufactured before1968 may not always have a serial number.it's illegal to remove a sn

 

[Chewbacca7685]

Gun store committed theft of a firearm. And also business suicide.


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[candcallen]

They done zumbofudded themselves.


Just incase you wanna tell them just how zumbofudded they are....their phone number is (505) 888-1835 and they open at 930. I UNDERSTAND THEY DID GIVE THE KID BACK HIS GUN AFTER CONTACTING THE ATF.

Zumbofudded indeed!

I got more important things to do but I'm sure someone might want to remind them just how big of a screw up they made and how the whole world knows it. Lol. Being that stupid should at least be uncomfortable.

Before any handwringing panzy ars screams about doxxing or any of that BS they are a buisness open to the public that maintains a web site, Facebook page etc. If mods wanna remove the number go ahead it takes 1.567 seconds to find it if one is so inclined.

By the way they could lose their FFL if they didn't record that gun in their book and follow the stupid rule about frames and serial numbers iirc. I mean since Biden’s BATFE has zero tolerance for such paperwork errors and rule violation now.

Wouldn't that be appropriate karma?

 

[oldag]

By the way they could lose their FFL if they didn't record that gun in their book and follow the stupid rule about frames and serial numbers iirc. I mean since Biden’s BATFE has zero tolerance for such paperwork errors and rule violation now.

Wouldn't that be appropriate karma?

 

[Tnhawk]

I hope my truck isn't confiscated when I get my next oil change, as I've been over the speed limit a few times. Shooters Den isn't an arm of the ATF and had NO right to wrongfully take a customer's gun.

 

[BRD@66]

many guns manufactured before1968 may not always have a serial number.it's illegal to remove a sn

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I have a firearm that - never mind.

 

[Steve In Texas]

This sounds like theft of firearm by FUDD's Den.

 

[skfullgun]

Such stupidity. Who put Pooter Den in charge?

 

[OutlawStar]

Gun store committed theft of a firearm. And also business suicide.


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I've kinda wondered that why individuals especially or why FFLs try to play the role of ATF officer. Some jackass at the range wants to see my tax stamp for a SBR or suppressor? Show me a badge. Some FFL feels like confiscating my gun because they're too stupid to understand the rules governing them? Show me your badge. Call the police, without any breaking of the law, you have no jurisdiction or right to confiscate my personal property.

And like you said; anyone who hears of the story will never shop there, plus it really attracts attention from your local ATF field office to review what the hell you're even doing there.

I guess my only question is if you have a P80 or dagger, or any other gun, why are you bringing it to a gun store to see if a holster and magazine will fit? Maybe a rookie mistake, who knows.

 

[Chewbacca7685]

I've kinda wondered that why individuals especially or why FFLs try to play the role of ATF officer. Some jackass at the range wants to see my tax stamp for a SBR or suppressor? Show me a badge. Some FFL feels like confiscating my gun because they're too stupid to understand the rules governing them? Show me your badge. Call the police, without any breaking of the law, you have no jurisdiction or right to confiscate my personal property.

And like you said; anyone who hears of the story will never shop there, plus it really attracts attention from your local ATF field office to review what the hell you're even doing there.

I guess my only question is if you have a P80 or dagger, or any other gun, why are you bringing it to a gun store to see if a holster and magazine will fit? Maybe a rookie mistake, who knows.

I would assume rookie mistake as well. The guy was young. But how did it end up in the fudds hands in the first place? Did he forcefully take it? Did the kid hand it over? And this situation took days to even get somewhere. The local PD didn’t even respond before the store closed. If it was me they’d have to respond cause I ain’t going nowhere until you hand me back my gun. Now that this is in PDs hands hopefully he gets it back. I bet it’ll take a while though.


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[OutlawStar]

I would assume rookie mistake as well. The guy was young. But how did it end up in the fudds hands in the first place? Did he forcefully take it? Did the kid hand it over? And this situation took days to even get somewhere. The local PD didn’t even respond before the store closed. If it was me they’d have to respond cause I ain’t going nowhere until you hand me back my gun. Now that this is in PDs hands hopefully he gets it back. I bet it’ll take a while though.


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I kinda assume kid walks in with the gun in a case of some sort; says I've got a pistol, I think I need a glock 19 magazine and holster, do you have any? And the clerk asked to see it to verify what he needs, didn't really know what he was looking at so he started looking for manufacturer info and noticed there wasn't a serial or manufacturer info on the gun and went full FUD and kept it behind the counter with him.

Kid probably left, told his parents, call a lawyer or PD and its now a gun forum news story. I probably would have called the police before leaving the counter if the FFL refused to give my property back. If the local police knew anything about firearms they should have ordered the FFL to give it back, at which point the FUDFFL would have refused saying it was an ATF matter scaring off local PD.

I hope he gets his pistol back and a nice settlement check from that gun store. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Even if a known felon walks in with an obviously illegal gun like a glock switch, SBR, or whatever, what benefit is it to them to call the ATF with a stolen gun (by them)?

 

[ScottDLS]

many guns manufactured before1968 may not always have a serial number.it's illegal to remove a sn

Yep I had an old .22 rifle made in '64 w/ no S/N.

 

[tonelar]

ATF told the FFL to serialize the gun so it could be put into SDen’s book. The shop then could not return it to the young man since they can only take it from their book as a DROS-complete with background check.
I’m glad Albuquerque PD took the P80 and hope it’s back with it’s rightful owner.

 

[Kar98]

I can only assume the store thought it was being probed in a sting op and thought it best to over-comply.

 

[seeker_two]

How did this story end without the gun store employee ending up a bleeding heap on the floor?....

 

[Axxe55]

How did this story end without the gun store employee ending up a bleeding heap on the floor?....

or at least chargedwith attempted theft?

 

[benenglish]

...Must be something in the water...

That's funny since your video is the YT reporter who ends each video with the sound of urination.

There's something weird about that guy.

As for the topic, hasn't this already been covered on TGT? I'm looking for a thread to merge but I can't find it.

Last thing - The sequence of events is being reported very differently in different places. At least one credible report says the shop called the ATF before they took the gun and the ATF told them to take it, only to change their mind the next day.

 

[tonelar]

I tried searching as I didn’t want to re-post. This supposedly happened last week.

Maybe these events are more accurate.