Shooting fun: Buy a Marcolmar CETME L (.223) or a FAL Para Folder (.308)-- ammo price difference as a prime factor?

[Laufer]

Even if you already owned a FAL (21" barrel) and found both of the rifles in the title equally appealing,
would you pick the gun which shoots ammo at .40/rd. or the gun using .308 at .70/rd?

I find each rd. of .308 more fun than any round of.223 or 7.62x39. This makes the gun purchase decision a little more difficult.
--Reactive targets are used most of the time.

All else being roughly equal it's not an easy choice despite being age 67 and having owned approx. twenty five rifles.
No other gun types are under consideration, based on prev. and current ownership.

Dr. Dabbs Reviews the CETME Model L in 5.56! (VIDEO) - Firearms News

Want something new and cool that's not an AR-15? Dr. Dabbs Reviews the MarColMar CETME Model L in 5.56 and talks about how this could be your next survival rifle. Also, see his full review in Firearms News' Survival Guns Special Issue #24, 2020.

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Sidenote: Former special ops warrior Kris was in the famous, long siege of the US Benghazi embassy.

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[V-Tach]

I chose...................both.........along with a couple of others here..........

 

[Laufer]

How about using the cheapest (non-reman) brands such as Armscor .223 plus our much-beloved Wolf or Tula ammo?

A gent named Machine Gun Dad stated in his video that neither Win. White Box or Tula worked in his rifle when it came out of the factory box.
Maybe some break-in period was needed on his very stiff charging spring? Only 'milspec' NATO' ammo worked in his CETME L.

 

[zackmars]

The cetme l is a nice gun. A guy i know has one, it required a break in, and chews up polymer mags but is still pretty fun.

 

[A1Oni]

the CETME L is neato and a decent rifle, but it can be a bit temperamental with mags, and by virtue of roller delayed blowback it will chew and send your brass into the next county over, the FAL is a certified hood classic though, so you have quite the choice ahead of you.

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

Everyone that shot my Cetme L at Eazy E's place liked it a lot. It's heavy, but damn is it smooth. Mine had a tight bcg and was a little unreliable, but I bought a second bcg as a spare and it's been 100% with that one.

Here's a video during break in. I was just mag dumping to up the round count, and look how stable the tip of the barrel is without trying just throwing rounds into the river. It's so smooth.

 

[Laufer]

I bought a FAL SAR-4800 last January.
Acquired my PTR-91 over a year ago. Didn't want to overload my initial question with too much info.

Stopped reloading over four years ago, luckily not a factor. I should have stated this.

Don't know why these letters turned "ethnic"......

BeatTheTunaUP:

is the L's stock trigger's heaviness very similar to what most people perceive in a PTR-91 or FAL?
------ I can't quite remember from my single, tiny CETME L exposure in a gun shop.-----

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

I bought a FAL SAR-4800 last January.
Acquired my PTR-91 over a year ago. Didn't want to overload my initial question with too much info.

Stopped reloading over four years ago, luckily not a factor. I should have stated this.

Don't know why these letters turned "ethnic"......

BeatTheTunaUP:

is the L's stock trigger's heaviness very similar to what most people perceive in a PTR-91 or FAL?
------ I can't quite remember from my single, tiny CETME L exposure in a gun shop.-----

It's about 8lbs

 

[Laufer]

BeatTheTunaUp:

Thanks very much . My only pull of a CETME L trigger surprised me, and Because it was so, made me (later) think that it might be heavier than a PTR-91 or FAL.

That is pretty much all I needed to know to rule in favor of a brand-new (factory) CETME L, vs. a first DSA rifle.

And with .223 ammo costs always a big % less than .308 ammo-----

 

[Davmor19]

Laufer: I am with you on this ? I shoot mostly at an indoor range. I have 3 or 4 .223 rifles but 0 .308 rifles. I am not sure there is a point to having a 308 for 50-100 yard shooting in addition to the ammo cost. I have not tried a Cetme but will look into it. I am always on the lookout for fun guns to shoot….any suggestions are welcome.


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[S13]

The Cetme L shoots good.

 

[Seabee radm]

I’d vote for the paraFAL….love it.

 

[baboon]

I wonder if a registered H&K auto sear would work in a Cetme L trigger pack?

 

[Gordo]

It's not how fast you mow, it's how well you mow fast...

(don't know, just came to mind reading this thread)

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

I wonder if a registered H&K auto sear would work in a Cetme L trigger pack?

I'll let you try

 

[baboon]

I'll let you try

I hope I never have to tear into a H&K 4 position trigger pack. My guess the answer can be found online, but I'm not that inquisitive.

 

[BeatTheTunaUp]

lol, well the offer stands if you get a wild hair up your ass. I'm curious

 

[baboon]

lol, well the offer stands if you get a wild hair up your ass. I'm curious

If I get a wild hair up my ass I'll go for Electrolysis. I wonder if I should consider bung hole bleaching when that time comes?

 

[Skeezix]

I have found .308 / 7.62x51 to be the most satisfying, and I would humbly recommend getting what you WANT and not trying to distill your purchase decision down to a spreadsheet of pennies.
Getting what you want far outweighs saving a little money in the long run. IMHO.