"Silver Bear" .223 55 gr.

[DirtyD]

Didnt we have a whole thread about this recently? This has kind of been prven to be a "wives tale" hasnt it? I personally have shot at least 15k rounds of laquered stiff in the last few years and never had any issues...most I know that have used it can say the same thing.

Plus I dont believe that silver bear is coated.

Not sure about the silver bear, but I will tell you laquered ammo in an AR is not a wives tail....

 

[beardking]

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Dagnabit!!!! I got my posts mixed up when I was asking about this (although I'm glad to have found another place to shop). I thought that you were saying that Copes has Silver Bear 62 gr, HP ammunition for $107 for a 500 round case. I keep trying to find an affordable HP "plinking" ammo so I can shoot at any range I want to rather than having to drive an hour to get to one of the four in the metroplex that allow FMJ.

That being said, I'm going to be ordering from them soon. Just don't tell my wife.

 

[signkutter]

I like the "golden bear" 62 grain hp. Its also steel cased but plated in brass as opposed to zinc in the "silverbear". The Goldenbear has worked out great in my 5.56 MSAR E4 stg. Out of a 20 ich 1/8 twist barrel it performs about as well at 50 to 200 yards as Hornady TAP 75 grain hp. I cant say how well it fragments but it is accurate plinking ammo, cycles reliably although it does burn dirtier IMHO. For the price to quality Golden bear is a sweetheart of a deal. I will be trying "siliver bear' also as I am told that the only difference from golden bear is that silver bear is zinc plated.

 

[Texan2]

Didnt we have a whole thread about this recently? This has kind of been prven to be a "wives tale" hasnt it? I personally have shot at least 15k rounds of laquered stiff in the last few years and never had any issues...most I know that have used it can say the same thing.

Plus I dont believe that silver bear is coated.

Not sure about the silver bear, but I will tell you laquered ammo in an AR is not a wives tail....

I have shot tens of thousands of rounds of it with no ill effect...in an AR

 

[Texas42]

Not sure about the silver bear, but I will tell you laquered ammo in an AR is not a wives tail....

I remember reading that its not the laquor that melts off, its the fact that steel doesn't seal as well as brass and more gass goes back into the chamber. Dirtier. A lot of guns have issues with the timing and the case gets stuck. I don't remember the reason, but its not laquor.

 

[ftw13]

first of all it is a wives tale,and second of all....all steel cases ammo is now polymer coated except silver bear which is zinc coated. the switch was made a long time ago. i've shot steel cased ammo for about sixteen years almost exclusively in any rifle i've owned and never had a problem when it was lacquered. if your rifle won't feed and fire russian ammo then your rifle just plain sucks.

 

[leonidas]

I just went and shot some more Tulammo and Silverbear through an AR - I'm almost disappointed they shot flawlessly and accurately!

 

[Texastransplant]

The following came from a guy testing velocity on "thehighroad"

Out of 14.5" barrel Noveske=

Privi M193 55gr = 3042 ft/sec
XM193 55gr = 3056 ft/sec
Brown Bear 62gr = 2780 ft/sec
Silver Bear 62gr = 2777 ft/sec

Chrono'd 10mm, 9mm and 5.56 today! DoubleTap disappointing - THR

 

[beardking]

Well, I found 240 rounds of Silver Bear 55 gr HP on Sportsman's Guide for $62, so I ordered it. Now I just have to wait for it to get here. I have a question though, they have the 62gr HP for about the same price. How well with this run through a 1:9 twist barrel?

 

[Texas42]

Well, I found 240 rounds of Silver Bear 55 gr HP on Sportsman's Guide for $62, so I ordered it. Now I just have to wait for it to get here. I have a question though, they have the 62gr HP for about the same price. How well with this run through a 1:9 twist barrel?

1/9 twist rate will run it fine. I'd start to worry closer to the 70ish range.

 

[leonidas]

62 works great for my 1:9 twist. I'm starting to sound like a Russian ammo salesman.