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Statue in Travis Park removed overnight.

Discussion in 'San Antonio' started by bignic83, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. benenglish

    benenglish Lifetime Supporter Staff Member Lifetime Member Admin

    Nov 22, 2011
    Re: Removal vs. Destruction
    My thinking on this has evolved. I now agree with you. I don't think removal is inherently evil as long as it's not an attempt to hide/deny/forget the past. Your examples from Germany are good ones. So I'm not going to get my knickers in a twist over removal per se.

    Unfortunately, most people calling/marching/rioting for removal don't want removal to a place where the statuary serves an educational purpose. The folks doing the agitating are like revolutionaries in the strictest sense; they want change and don't care about/haven't planned for what will come after. For the most part, they want the statues to come down, be moved to a crate in a warehouse, and be forgotten forever.

    That's re-writing history in a way that's evil. It was in light of that motivation that I said removal vs. relocation was a distinction without a difference. I now regret that choice of words because I didn't make it clear that my statement was directed at folks who really just want to see all those statues melted down, scrubbed from the history books, and forgotten.

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  2. benenglish

    benenglish Lifetime Supporter Staff Member Lifetime Member Admin

    Nov 22, 2011
    Warning: Off Topic due to thread we don't see that every day on TGT :)
    Re: Indigenous Peoples Day
    Agreed. Fully.

    But I'm not sure that the exact name we choose to call a holiday is all that important. Moreover, I can definitely understand where the motivation arises to change the name away from "Columbus Day". While it's not something about which I could ever lose a wink of sleep, remembering history doesn't really require us to honor a guy like Columbus, does it?

  3. AustinN4

    AustinN4 TGT Addict

    Nov 27, 2013
    Happy Indigenous Peoples Day!
  4. satx78247

    satx78247 TGT Addict

    Jun 23, 2014
    Austin N4,

    Fwiw, most of us Native Americans (we usually call ourselves: American Indians.) don't celebrate Columbus Day.

    Instead we generally celebrate CANADIAN THANKSGIVING on the same date, complete with turkey, dressing, hot rolls, cranberry sauce, etc., etc., etc.
    (Our turkey goes into the oven about 1500 this PM. - Dinner is at 1900.)

    Historical note: The REAL "First Thanksgiving" was celebrated just outside of EL PASO, TEXAS, nearly a century before the Puritans had their Thanksgiving in MA.

    yours, satx
  5. TheDan

    TheDan 4th Best Member TGT Supporter

    Nov 11, 2008
    Austin - Rockdale
    I'm feeling pretty indigenous today...

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