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  1. toddnjoyce

    toddnjoyce TGT Addict

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    Most of y’all know I stuck around long enough to retire in 2016, and went to the corporate world shortly thereafter. To a very mission-oriented financial services company.

    I had the ‘opportunity’ to participate in a diversity discussion panel today. My role was to provide the military perspective to a group of employees with no direct touch to the military.

    I was quite amazed at the amount of pushback on the concept of individual merit in all aspects of the discussion. It seemed merit only counted after the fact, which is counter to the military ethos. Really disheartening.

    Towards the end, I had a few minutes for closing comments and spoke about the diversity in the room. Make/female, race, color, religion, education, age, it was all represented across the spectrum.

    I asked a rhetorical question whether the group would prefer to blindly hire someone aligned to the mission or selectively choose among candidates who were from under-represented groups.

    After a brief pause, I asked if they thought our core customer, the active duty military member and their immediate family, would rather be taken care of by someone who was there due to competence and merit or because that person was there due to what they brought to the diversity table.

    When Mattis first became SECDEF, he gave an impromptu pep talk about how we, the military, needed to stay the course while America got their shit in one sock.

    That was refreshing to hear. I’m just curious whether or not the ‘rest of America’ is making progress towards that, or if the divides seen in the media aware worsening.

    What do y’all think? Take away the media and all that shit, what’re your day to day interactions telling you?
     


  2. Army 1911

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    Diversity is the newest affirmative action and just as Insidious.

    There may have been a point for affirmative action at one time but no longer in diversity is even worse.

    I don't know about you but I don't want my brain surgeon coming from the Acme company.
     
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  3. deemus

    deemus my mama says I'm special

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    I have hired only women, so that meets a diversity tab. Black, white, mexican. Pretty diverse. Dang, never really thought about it before. But I hired them all because of their skills. They just happened to be women.
     
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  4. baboon

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    Affirmative action was just another reason I left Illinois @ age 23 for the great unknown of Texas. I guess I have a lot to thank for affirmative action.
     
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  5. toddnjoyce

    toddnjoyce TGT Addict

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    That was the point I was trying to make. Thanks.
     
  6. vmax

    vmax TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    867C5FCB-5FBF-4D93-B50F-BB324A625D7C.jpeg Does THIS answer your question?!

     
  7. diesel1959

    diesel1959 por vida Lifetime Member

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    Professional life that doesn’t proceed on the basis of merit and demonstrated competence is simply unthinkable in my mind.
     
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  8. toddnjoyce

    toddnjoyce TGT Addict

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    No. Elected office is, at best, a popularity contest.
     
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  9. vmax

    vmax TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    how do you think she got here in the first place?
    A refugee program. How do you get to be a refugee?
    It aint’ white middle class people they are bringing in exactly.

    You ask and I answered. You don’t have to like or accept my answer. But that is my answer.
    We are being watered down with diversity.
    We are being dissolved.
     
  10. karlac

    karlac Gone fishin' ... TGT Supporter Lifetime Member

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    Successful, and worthwhile completion of any mission/task/project relies heavily on one overriding necessity:

    "Attention to detail".

    "Diversity" plays no part in that whatsoever.
     


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