"The Proposal"

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Man With A Gun..., Jul 24, 2009.

  1. Man With A Gun...

    Man With A Gun... Member

    May 22, 2009
    Lakeway, Tx
    When a company falls on difficult times, one of the things that seems to happen is they reduce their staff and workers. The remaining workers must find ways to continue to do a good job or risk that their job would be eliminated as well.

    Wall street, and the media normally congratulate the CEO for making this type of "tough decision", and his board of directors gives him a big bonus.

    Our government should not be immune from similar risks.


    Reduce the House of Representatives from the current 435 members to 218 members.

    Reduce Senate members from 100 to 50 (one per State). Then, reduce their staff by 25%.

    Accomplish this over the next 8 years (two steps/two elections) and of course this would require some redistricting.

    Some Yearly Monetary Gains Include:

    $44,108,400 for elimination of base pay for congress. (267 members X $165,200 pay/member/ yr.)

    $97,175,000 for elimination of their staff. (estimate $1.3 Million in staff per each member of the House, and $3 Million in staff per each member of the Senate every year)

    $240,294 for the reduction in remaining staff by 25%.

    $7,500,000,000 reduction in pork barrel ear-marks each year. (those members whose jobs are gone. Current estimates for total government pork earmarks are at $15 Billion/yr).

    The remaining representatives would need to work smarter and improve efficiencies. It might even be in their best interests to work together for the good of our country!

    We may also expect that smaller committees might lead to a more efficient resolution of issues as well. It might even be easier to keep track of what your representative is doing.

    Congress has more tools available to do their jobs than it had back in 1911 when the current number of representatives was established. (telephone, computers, cell phones to name a few)

    Congress did not hesitate to head home when it was a holiday, when the nation needed a real fix to the economic problems. Also, we had 3 senators that were not doing their jobs for the 18+ months (on the campaign trail) and still they all have accepted full pay. These facts alone support a reduction in senators & congress.

    Summary of opportunity:
    $ 44,108,400 reduction of congress members.

    $282,100,000 for elimination of the reduced house member staff.

    $150,000,000 for elimination of reduced senate member staff.

    $59,675,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining house members.

    $37,500,000 for 25% reduction of staff for remaining senate members.

    $7,500,000,000 reduction in pork added to bills by the reduction of congress members.

    $8,073,383,400 per year, estimated total savings. (that's 8-BILLION just to start!)

    Big business does these types of cuts all the time.

    If Congresspersons were required to serve 20, 25 or 30 years (like everyone else) in order to collect retirement benefits, tax payers could save a bundle.

    Now they get full retirement after serving only ONE term.

    IF you are happy with how Congress spends our taxes, delete this message. Otherwise, I assume you know what to do.

  2. frijolero817

    frijolero817 Member

    May 17, 2009
    Fort Worth
    I'm on board with you. I think we should limit them to one term for any office, give them E-1 pay, which is the lowest rank in the military for you non-military guys, eliminate all retirement pay for anyone who is in public office, and then you might have someone who serves their country.
  3. GM.Chief

    GM.Chief Well-Known

    Mar 16, 2009
    I'd go so far as to give them two terms just like in the WH. However, I agree that thier retirement benefits are rediculous and should be stopped. But then again, I'm also against Supreme Court Justices being in for life.
  4. Bigs Wife

    Bigs Wife Active Member

    Jul 6, 2009
    Cedar Park
    Oh, what I could do with 8 BILLION dollars :]
  5. country_boy

    country_boy TGT Addict

    Feb 7, 2009
    Round Rock
    Sounds good to me.
  6. DCortez

    DCortez TGT Addict

    Jan 28, 2009
    Houston, Cy-Fair
    Wishful thinking ... but a guy can dream
  7. MadMo44Mag

    MadMo44Mag TGT Addict

    Jan 23, 2009
  8. megafatcat

    megafatcat New Member

    May 22, 2009
    Do not even suggest changing my constitution!
  9. slammr

    slammr Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    Plano, Tx
    Excellent idea. I'm all for it. Too bad it will never happen. Governments never shrink; just get bigger.
  10. robhillips

    robhillips New Member

    Jul 22, 2009
    South Plains of Texas
    Amendment to the above.
    Since there are so many computers available, lets remove the power of the numbnuts to pass bills. They can merely propose legislation that will be email to each citizen who then reviews the bill and votes for or against it.
    No more will there be 300 to 400 people who claim they represent the populace.

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