Two officers ambushed...

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  1. easy rider

    easy rider Allotropic Transformer TGT Supporter

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  2. benenglish

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    It's story time, I suppose. While I can't vouch for perfect truthfulness on the part of my mother when she related this to me, I can say that both her mother and an older brother independently confirmed a number of the details involved. It also explains, like no other version of events could, some of the behaviors I personally witnessed from my mother later in life. Thus, I believe this story to be true.

    To those of you who have doubts, feel free to keep them to yourself.

    When my mom was 16, her 16-year-old cousin ran away from home. Cousin stopped by mom's house where mom gave her some money and clothes. At the time, mom didn't even know that her cousin was running away, just that she had asked to borrow a few things.

    Her (mom's) father was so angry he went to the police and insisted they arrest my mom for kidnapping. It was the 1940s and mom was a 16-year-old kid; there was no way the police were going to listen to a word she had to say when it was her own father insisting that she was a criminal. They did exactly what her dad requested and arrested her.

    Mom was stunningly beautiful. When she was booked, a number of officers showed up to gawk. A "matron" was brought in to search her, including stripping her naked and doing a full cavity search.

    Six male police officers told her they were going to watch. They did exactly that. They stood there, laughed, joked, and commented on her "attributes" during the entire process.

    She was then placed in the county jail with the general female population. The fact that she was a juvenile didn't seem to be important to anybody.

    At her first court appearance the next morning, her dad made such an ass of himself that his credibility was destroyed. The "kidnap victim" was present and pleaded with the judge that my mom didn't know anything about what was happening.

    Apparently, initial arraignments were conducted much more informally back in those days. The judge immediately tossed the case and told Mom she was free to go.

    One of the reasons the house I grew up in had few firearms (one rifle, one shotgun, no handguns) was that my father believed that his wife might snap and become violent if she were unexpectedly forced to deal with police officers at our home.

    I distinctly remember when I was young the way my mom used to quake with fear any time a police officer was near her. In her later years, she was able to control that fear and let the logic in her brain tell her that police officers were necessary. That still wasn't enough to make her trust them; when she was brutally gang-raped in her mid-40s, she refused to involve the police. "They don't care about anyone like me" was the reason she gave.

    She was wary of anyone with a badge until the day she died.

    The original question was "What can drive people to do such things?"

    My answer to that question is "Lots of stuff that I hope no one here ever experiences."
     
  3. easy rider

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    Still not an excuse to just walk up and shoot people through a window, police or not. I know there are some pretty messed up people out there, but what's the point? Really?
     
  4. benenglish

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    Sorry I wasn't clear. I realize that the point got lost. Let me rephrase.

    My mom was a strong, rational woman who dealt with a trauma. It caused her pain but she never acted out inappropriately. Most people are capable of dealing with a bad situation and never unjustifiably hurting others.

    There are a few people, though, who will act out inappropriately in the aftermath of a trauma, even if the definition of "trauma" isn't clear in their case.

    You just never know when someone is bearing up under the stress vs. when someone is falling over the edge, becoming a danger to themselves and others.

    We'll likely never know what pushed this guy over the edge but the case demonstrates the need for everyone to stay alert at all times. You never know when someone will choose to hurt you because of something in which you were completely uninvolved.

    Police officers, especially, should always be in that mindset.

    There was a time when I thought people who said things like "I always sit where I can see who comes in the front door" were just being paranoid. I no longer feel that way.
     
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  5. Moonpie

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    Sounds personal. Maybe the shooter had it in for the deputies?

    or maybe Aloha Snackbar?
     
  6. benenglish

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    Whatever the reason, if one comes out I hope it gets posted here. I'm pretty curious.
     
  7. grasshopperglock

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    If the subject was white. It'd be plastered all over the news. Intake photo with a run down of every incursion with the law. With pedophilia material found on a computer or phone.

    None of that has appeared. No witnesses have posted anything to the nationality of the shooter(s).

    Usually when they close down the information. It's whom you think it was. Since Starbucks is doing their thing. Not even the crickets are chirping.
     
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  8. Ole Cowboy

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    In my early days as a LEO, one thing we knew and so did the bad guys. You did not KILL a LEO, if you did, every LEO in America knew it, was looking for you and the chances of seeing the inside of a jail were slim.
     
  9. easy rider

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    I guess it's a good thing I don't understand the mentality of people that can do these kind of things. Just seems that if the end result is in taking your own life, why ruin the lives of, not only the officer's, but all those that are effected by those officers.
     
  10. MTA89

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    Shooters name:
    "Investigators said the gunman -- whom they later identified as John Hubert Highnote, of Bell, Florida -- was found dead from a gunshot wound inside a Jeep outside the restaurant."

    https://www.news4jax.com/news/florida/2-gilchrist-county-deputies-killed
     


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