Vastly different sized guns...same price?

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  • breakingcontact

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    Take the average small plastic 380 or 9mm pistol for example. $275-400 roughly.

    Thats the same price as a bolt action rifle or a pump shotgun.

    How can a tiny LCP cost as much as a Mossberg 500?

    Is the added input costs in small parts being harder to make? Is it harder to assembly the small pistols so that drives up the cost?
     

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    I'd wager it's because of the smaller parts, the number of said parts (in some cases - the LC9 only has 15 more parts than the Mossberg 500), and the fact that smaller guns are inherently more complex/finnicky than larger ones.
     

    ShootingTheBull

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    Plus there's a million other factors -- how many they'll sell, what their marketing costs are, what their service and support costs are, how much labor it takes to make them, all sorts of things.

    The actual costs of the parts are perhaps the least relevant part of the equation. I mean, think about it -- some cheap dime-store novel may have 300 pages and cost 50 cents, whereas the top of the NY Times Bestseller List costs $40, and may still have 300 pages. If cost of materials was what determined final price, you might think they should both cost the same, but -- business doesn't work that way.
     

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    Right. Thats what im getting at so where are the costs?

    Is it more costly to be in the pistol business than than the shotgun business in terms of liability, lawyers and insurance?
     

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    Interesting question. My guess would be complexity, pump shotgun, or a bolt action rifle are about as simple as it gets mechanically speaking, tolerances are probably fairly open. Revolvers/pistols the tolerances are probably tighter and mechanically they are more complex but does that really justify the higher price by itself? I'm sure there are other factors, long guns are probably sold in more places so larger market share with probably less competition compared to the handgun market. Seems like there are a lot more handgun manufacturers than there are say bolt gun. Plus then there is the good old "what the market will bare" too, what was the cost difference 50 or 75 years ago??
     

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    Interesting question. My guess would be complexity, pump shotgun, or a bolt action rifle are about as simple as it gets mechanically speaking, tolerances are probably fairly open. Revolvers/pistols the tolerances are probably tighter and mechanically they are more complex but does that really justify the higher price by itself? I'm sure there are other factors, long guns are probably sold in more places so larger market share with probably less competition compared to the handgun market. Seems like there are a lot more handgun manufacturers than there are say bolt gun. Plus then there is the good old "what the market will bare" too, what was the cost difference 50 or 75 years ago??

    There is a point there when you look at the prices of say a Marlin 336, which seems pretty complex mechanically (more than a bolt action) and is made of decent quality materials.
     

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    Take the average small plastic 380 or 9mm pistol for example. $275-400 roughly.

    Thats the same price as a bolt action rifle or a pump shotgun.

    How can a tiny LCP cost as much as a Mossberg 500?

    Is the added input costs in small parts being harder to make? Is it harder to assembly the small pistols so that drives up the cost?

    Tell that to Kahr.
     

    Vaquero

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    What do you pay for a Colt AR15?
    What does uncle sam pay for an m4?

    Sometimes it makes no sense.
     

    Edwarethered

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    My personal thought has always been that they'll charge what they think someone is willing to pay for it. Most likely they take the manufacturing cost, add at least 200%, treat that as a minimum and increase the price by a few 100 untill it looks like a price tag no one will pay for. subtract about $1.01 and call it the price. But then again, I have all kinds of wild theories
     
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