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Discussion in 'Gun Legislation' started by nlghthawk, Feb 21, 2018.

  1. MTA89

    MTA89 Lives in a van down by the river TGT Supporter

    Mar 10, 2017
    Almost Oklahoma
    Recent former military here. Unless you are an armorer or a SNCO/Officer, you don't get a ton of trigger time with a pistol. I would also bet that the amount of police like encounters that happen in the military are few and far between, especially with a pistol. Not counting PMO or MPs of course. Now if vets want to be cops, I am all for it.

    I just think its nonsense that people would think a military member or police officer are more qualified to carry then any old joe schmoe down the street. There are a ton of videos out there of police who passed these psych evals who ended up shooting someone they shouldn't have.

  2. TheMailMan

    TheMailMan Well-Known

    Dec 3, 2015
    North of Kaufman
    With a starting salary of $41,975 you're not going to get the best and brightest. Hell, a mailman makes more than that. Most starting Letter Carriers are making $60K+ a year with the OT they are forced to work. $42k a year in NYC is starvation wages.
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  3. Southpaw

    Southpaw SUPER OWNER TGT Supporter

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  4. Renegade

    Renegade SuperOwner

    Mar 5, 2008
    My PSCH exam was <15 minutes.

    No PD anywhere in the US requires a "couple years of training" before allowing an officer to carry a gun.
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  5. cherok2e

    cherok2e Active Member

    Feb 22, 2018
    Friona, TX
    I am a Veteran and have handled guns most of my life, have DVM but don't consider my self ready for cop duty w/o training. I do believe we should be able to Conceal Carry.
    My point here was to offer an opinion on shooting. I think that the local school board should have been able to post signage stating armed patrol on site. This could be fulfilled by ex-military with rifle in front of the school. This simple deterrant would have gave notice to this shooter and I don't believe he would have acted. This would be cost effective for any school. Sorry for misspelling but can't correct.
  6. Charlie

    Charlie TGT Addict TGT Supporter

    Mar 19, 2008
    Kerr County
    I agree. What's DVM? I'm not very good with all the acronyms.
  7. cherok2e

    cherok2e Active Member

    Feb 22, 2018
    Friona, TX
    Doctor of Veterinary Medicine mentioned only because I had psych.
  8. Darkpriest667

    Darkpriest667 Well-Known

    yeah and in NYC you can understand why so many of them take bribes. They probably have to just to feed themselves. I have a buddy that lives back up in Amarillo who used to be an NYC courtroom cop he served 30 years and retired. He told me the only place he saw a higher amount of corruption in police departments than NYC was Amarillo Texas. Which shocked the hell out of me.
  9. nlghthawk

    nlghthawk Member

    Aug 24, 2010
    San Antonio
    I did not say "All, anything" don't put words in my mouth. I AM suggesting that there should be a path for all people to have the same freedom of movement with a weapon as any Police Officer has. I don't need to post my resume, but I am not speaking from ignorance. The difference is not that far between a citizen and a peace officer, ask me how I know, don't assume. 3 semesters at a junior college and 40 hours of refresher training every 2 years and a firearms proficiency test.

    I don't hate cops, they are a useful tool to enforce laws in a civilized society. I am not naive either know they aren't every where, nor do I want them everywhere.

    Also, the Supreme Court Ruled a long time ago that Public Safety officers have NO DUTY to save you if you are being victimized. That means, there is no penalty if they refuse to risk their lives in the safety of others. Will a cop be fired? Probably, because the leaders of these government organizations want to continue the myth that government is the solution to providing you safety. That is a lie that too many people are believing. Most cops want to help, but do they want to die to help?
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  10. DwnRange

    DwnRange Active Member

    Jan 5, 2015
    Actually this is how "rumors" get started, by folks looking to bash a product - THIS GLOCK WAS NOT RUSTED. The "brass" cased ammunition in her magazine, because it had not been cycled in so long had corroded to the point the firearm failed to function. Not the pistol's fault here but the ammo.

    Glocks don't rust, (save the old 1986 G17 I got that had a non-stainless SN# tab inserted in it to pass US import rules - which has been know to rust, but the Tenifer coating on the working parts prevents this condition described above from ever happening and after the initial importing all Glocks have a stainless SN# tab so even that is non-issue in current Glocks)

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