Why Real Conservatives Should Look at Gays Differently

[diveRN]

And the divide between libertarians and social conservatives continues to widen.

 

[breakingcontact]

And the divide between libertarians and social conservatives continues to widen.

Certainly true. However we are working together to get the RINOs out.

 

[diveRN]

Certainly true. However we are working together to get the RINOs out.

Working together towards a common goal has always been at the heart of the relationship between libertarians and conservatives. That said, the gay agenda is not the cause they need to unite over/rally around as the author of the article in the OP suggests.

We need to focus on issues that have considerably more social capital.

 

[itchin]

House Republicans should pass a bill legalizing gay marriage and abolishing the nfa in one bill.

 

[breakingcontact]

House Republicans should pass a bill legalizing gay marriage and abolishing the nfa in one bill.

Thats not going to happen. Also, no such thing as "gay marriage".

 

[Younggun]

Thats not going to happen. Also, no such thing as "gay marriage".

Who defines marriage?

 

[breakingcontact]

Who defines marriage?

My theocratic state with president Pat Robertson.

 

[Mike1234567]

WTF are you talking about. My post was a response to someone else, not yours.

Everyone has trouble reading your posts because they usually don't make sense, kinda like the one I just quoted.

Yeah, probably... Parkinson's.

 

[breakingcontact]

So one of the supposed pragmatic benefits is that people need to be allowed to be "married"...ahem...for the benefits. How about marrying 3 people? 100? Whos to say?

This isnt a slippery slope...its a cliff.

 

[franzas]

Working together towards a common goal has always been at the heart of the relationship between libertarians and conservatives. That said, the gay agenda is not the cause they need to unite over/rally around as the author of the article in the OP suggests.

We need to focus on issues that have considerably more social capital.

well said

 

[Coop45]

If I was gay, I still wouldn't be attracted to that guy who calls himself Hillary.

 

[breakingcontact]

Can Bradley Manning marry Chelsea Manning? Whos to say?

 

[Coop45]

Can Bradley Manning marry Chelsea Manning? Whos to say?

Probably common law would be best for them.

 

[Mike1234567]

If I was gay, I still wouldn't be attracted to that guy who calls himself Hillary.

A much better analogy is Michelle.

 

[franzas]

A much better analogy is Michelle.

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/michelle-obama-penis-480x332.jpg

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/michelle-obama-bulge1.jpg#michelle obama man

 

[rushthezeppelin]

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/michelle-obama-penis-480x332.jpg

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/wp-content/uploads/michelle-obama-bulge1.jpg#michelle obama man

In all fairness I've seen chicks with more cameltoe than that (and yes sometimes it would sit to the side like that). Although still a funny thought especially considering all the rumors that Obama himself is gay....and all this time I thought Michelle was just his beard lol.

 

[franzas]

In all fairness I've seen chicks with more cameltoe than that (and yes sometimes it would sit to the side like that). Although still a funny thought especially considering all the rumors that Obama himself is gay....and all this time I thought Michelle was just his beard lol.

more than just a beard. seems like she is his cock and balls, too

 

[TheDan]

I can meet the libertarians in the middle. We arent in the middle now.

I don't think we're in the middle at all right now. We're deep into the "total government" side of the scale. Not quite all the way there yet, but very far from the "total liberty" end.

We need to focus on issues that have considerably more social capital.

If we could get rid of the income tax all of these "issues of our time" wouldn't really be issues at all.

 

[diveRN]

If we could get rid of the income tax all of these "issues of our time" wouldn't really be issues at all.

While I would love to pay no income taxes, the reality of it is that it'll never go away. Talking about it is fine on an Internet gun forum, but rational discourse on this topic will never take place in the halls of power. Constitutionally, it can't. In today's world, defense of the country costs a lot of money and has to be paid for. Even with a limited government, there would still be costs. Does it need to be a LOT smaller than it is now? Absolutely, but it still would require funding.

I'll infer by your post that you mean that the "gay marriage" thing would go away if there were no income taxes. You're more of an optimist than I am. Even if there were no income tax, I think the LGBT "movement" would STILL push for the legal use of the term "marriage," in the context of a homosexual relationship. They want their cake and eat it too.

IMHO, common ground issues are an overreaching government (at all levels) and public education. As a social conservative, I would stand shoulder to shoulder with most libertarians on those issues. Gay marriage is a non-starter for me because it's a unilateral issue.

 

[Younggun]

Ok, I gotta ask.


What's the fucking point of having cake if you're NOT gonna eat it?