Pentagon erasing the Confederacy - with my tax $$$

[hullhullhull]

"A Disquisition of Government" by John C. Calhoun

Thank you

 

[popper]

And now recommending restricted sales to Mil under 25 yr old.

Department of Defense Panel: Prohibit Gun Sales to Troops Under Age 25

A Department of Defense-commissioned panel released a report Friday in which it suggested prohibiting gun sales to troops under the age of 25.

www.breitbart.com

 

[BigRed]

Pertaining to Bragg, can anyone point to the reference that teaches the critical lesson from having the base named after him?

Before y’all get all snowflaky and start with the logical fallacies, I’m a lifetime member of the Braxton Bragg chapter of AUSA, I’ve served in the Army for about 20 years, much of that in combat, I’ve trained at Fort Bragg alot, and I’m about to move there this summer.

Much like AustinBR, I don’t really care much about the name, but I do want to understand the historical significance.

Thus far the mob has recommended to read Lincoln’s speeches in order and nothing more. Where else should a person read to understand the “Civil War” or the “War of Northern Aggression”?.

Defining American Sovereignty – Abbeville Institute

www.abbevilleinstitute.org

 

[hullhullhull]

Defining American Sovereignty – Abbeville Institute

www.abbevilleinstitute.org

That was a fascinating read, thank you for sharing.

Do you have anything pertaining to the value of having an Army base named after General Bragg?

 

[wiredgeorge]

Biden Admin Bans Troops From Displaying Giant Flags At Major Events

Department of Defense (DoD) officials have issued a memorandum indicating that large displays of the American flag at sporting events are no longer appropriate.

dailycaller.com

 

[KJQ6945]

Necro post.

I missed all of this at the first of the year, and was on Google maps today and saw they had changed the name of Ft Gordon. WTF?

I searched it and found out they changed the name of 9 of the most iconic military bases of our lifetime. I was disgusted, and shocked.

This country has shamed all of us that pledged our oath, and up to our lives to defend the constitution.

All in the name of woke bullshit. 20 years from now your grandkids will probably go to basic at Ft George Floyd, or Camp Dylan Mulvaney. Let me know when the shooting starts.

 

[striker55]

Woke culture bashing Disney movies, movies we watched and never put a sexual thought to it. It's a shame how small groups can change things.

 

[Kar98]

Nobody wants to serve at Fort Loser, I guess?
Even Germany eventually renamed the few barracks named after nazis.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

So when will the young men take a stand and stop signing up due to all the Wokeness Going on. Or
do they even understand or care what's happening around them?

 

[Tex62]

Nobody wants to serve at Fort Loser, I guess?
Even Germany eventually renamed the few barracks named after nazis.

Comparing Confederates to Nazis is a stretch. Some of these generals were the best who ever lived, and the whole erase southern heritage is part of the woke Marxism which has taken over.

I think the board is getting invaded by Californians.


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[oldag]

Nobody wants to serve at Fort Loser, I guess?
Even Germany eventually renamed the few barracks named after nazis.

What an immensely stupid post.

 

[leVieux]

Devil's advocate here...but...why does anyone care if bases are renamed?

The confederacy lost the Civil War and in the years after the war, some people from the South decided to name things (streets, colleges, military bases, and etc) after generals from the losing side of the war to give a longterm middle finger to the North.

The Civil War and all components of it should absolutely be taught in schools, but why does it make sense to name things after generals and leaders from the side that literally lost the war?

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1). The individuals were all great upstanding Americans.

2). Our history has been falsified, worse than our ‘’news’’.

3). Many of us ‘’care’’ b/c our honorable Ancestors have been falsely maligned.

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[leVieux]

Comparing Confederates to Nazis is a stretch. Some of these generals were the best who ever lived, and the whole erase southern heritage is part of the woke Marxism which has taken over.

I think the board is getting invaded by Californians.


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My late Dad participated in the defeat of NAZI Germany, but always spoke highly of the non-NAZI German Professional MIlitary.

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[Kar98]

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My late Dad participated in the defeat of NAZI Germany, but always spoke highly of the non-NAZI German Professional MIlitary.

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You know what, at least the German military fought FOR their country, not against it.

 

[Tex62]

At some point your country is not your government.

I’m about there now. Why do you think there is support for Texas succession?


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[V-Tach]

While we all here have read books and learned the history of the war written by the Victors, how many here have read any books written by Southerners about the economic and political oppression of the South before and after the war?

Won't change the outcome or some's opinions, but it would give a better perspective to argue your points.......but I believe it's doubtful most have the intellectual curiosity to pursue the knowledge.....just too difficult.

 

[leVieux]

You know what, at least the German military fought FOR their country, not against it.

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The CSA WAS their Nation, and quite legally so !

As in Confederate States of AMERICA.

»Of the Northern states, New York was next to last in abolishing slavery. (In New Jersey, mandatory, unpaid "apprenticeships" did not end until the Thirteenth Amendment ended slavery, in 1865.)[3]: 44 « from ‘’WIKI’’

leVieux

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[seeker_two]

Look up Lincoln's record on habeas corpus, 1A rights, and military conscription of the poor while allowing the rich special privilege.....then tell me if you would serve under that President.

Not much difference between Lincoln and Biden.....even less after Lincoln was shot.....

 

[Tex62]

Or read his speeches during the war…


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[leVieux]

While we all here have read books and learned the history of the war written by the Victors, how many here have ready any books written by Southerners about the economic and political oppression of the South before and after the war?

Won't change the outcome or some's opinions, but it would give a better perspective to argue your points.......but I believe it's doubtful most have the intellectual curiosity to pursue the knowledge.....just too difficult.

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Albeit far from my own academic area, I spent some 25 years trying to ferret-out the TRUTH.

Until middle age, I just accepted what I knew from the high-school History books. Then I realized that, while I didn’t know anyone involved in the 1860’s War, I had known a bunch of their grandchildren; who all were very nice and honorable Christian & Jewish Citizens. Every single one of them !

So, I consulted a few professional Historians; from them I learned that accurate History is not to be found in the written stories of those who came later. I was advised to study only the real actual records.

I began with visits to the two Confederate Museums @ Charleston & New Orleans. There I read numerous PERSONAL communications; like letters home, notes, & diary journal first-person stories. Then, there were thousands of contemporaneous newspaper articles.

One of the most telling & revealing items I found was a bound volume of the wartime speeches given by Lincoln. When read completely, and in proper chronological order, Lincoln openly tells why he started the War, and specifically & repeatedly tells of having no desire to ‘’free slaves’’.

When I shared those findings with actual Historians, what I heard was something like this: Our recorded History is more biased and misleading than today’s ‘’TV News’’ !

One other impressive finding was from flying my own airplane over Fort Sumter & Charleston Bay on several occasions; seeing just how far into our sovereign Nation the Yankees had INVADED prior to hostilities. Then, reading the recorded verbatim communications between PGT Beauregard & his old friend, comrade, & West Point classmate, who commanded the Sumter garrison provided the ‘’icing’ my my findings-cake.

I was interested only in the cause(s) of the War and underlying conditions. As it was long over, I didn’t care about battles, personalities, or specific military operations.

So, yes, I did do my homework. It is now abundantly clear to me that the entire current widely-held beliefs about before, during, and after the War are completely unreliable, and intentionally so.

leVieux

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