Pentagon erasing the Confederacy - with my tax $$$

[wiredgeorge]

Take a Look: The Pentagon Is Spending Over $62 Million for This - Patriot Newsfeed

The Department of Defense released the news that Pentagon officials began working on renaming military infrastructure that has ties to the Confederate States of America. They plan to complete this process by the state of 2024. At this point, there are plans to rename nine U.S. Army bases, two...

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[Bozz10mm]

This chaps my ass. No more Ft. Benning, Ft. Hood, or Ft. Bragg. Another example of woke-ism in our military.

 

[Aus_Schwaben]

Take a Look: The Pentagon Is Spending Over $62 Million for This - Patriot Newsfeed

The Department of Defense released the news that Pentagon officials began working on renaming military infrastructure that has ties to the Confederate States of America. They plan to complete this process by the state of 2024. At this point, there are plans to rename nine U.S. Army bases, two...

patriotnewsfeed.com

At some point, the U.S. is going to run out of money for real needs while the Biden Administration blows money on made up issues!

 

[seeker_two]

Erase the history of the last civil war just before the next one starts......

 

[Geezer]

But I thought removing all of those statues was supposed make everything better.

 

[V-Tach]

KFAAFO................

 

[jrbfishn]

Erase the history of the last civil war just before the next one starts......

Pretty much.
It's easier to start the next one if you don't remember the first one. But I don't think the next will be what those that want it think will be or turn out the way they think.

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[BigRed]

The American Taliban can go to Hell.

 

[glenbo]

Everyone has to bow down to st. george of floyd. That's what the woke leftards want and expect. They can deep throat my .357.

 

[AustinBR]

Devil's advocate here...but...why does anyone care if bases are renamed?

The confederacy lost the Civil War and in the years after the war, some people from the South decided to name things (streets, colleges, military bases, and etc) after generals from the losing side of the war to give a longterm middle finger to the North.

The Civil War and all components of it should absolutely be taught in schools, but why does it make sense to name things after generals and leaders from the side that literally lost the war?

 

[Vaquero]

Aw hell

 

[BigRed]

Devil's advocate here...but...why does anyone care if bases are renamed?

The confederacy lost the Civil War and in the years after the war, some people from the South decided to name things (streets, colleges, military bases, and etc) after generals from the losing side of the war to give a longterm middle finger to the North.

The Civil War and all components of it should absolutely be taught in schools, but why does it make sense to name things after generals and leaders from the side that literally lost the war?

Well, here is a lesson.

It was not a civil war. A civil war is an effort to take over control of the government.

The seceding States were never attempting to take over the federal government. They were wanting to leave it.

A war of northern aggression to prevent southern independence? Sure.

Civil war? Not by a long shot.

 

[V-Tach]

Devil's advocate here...but...why does anyone care if bases are renamed?

The confederacy lost the Civil War and in the years after the war, some people from the South decided to name things (streets, colleges, military bases, and etc) after generals from the losing side of the war to give a longterm middle finger to the North.

The Civil War and all components of it should absolutely be taught in schools, but why does it make sense to name things after generals and leaders from the side that literally lost the war?

It was done as part of the healing process for the Nation among many reasons.....

They were "American Soldiers" and deserve respect as such..........

 

[AustinBR]

I don't really have any skin in this game and don't care either way, but I think it's important to challenge viewpoints on both sides of conversations to build an understanding and rationale for myself (and maybe others).

Well, here is a lesson.

It was not a civil war. A civil war is an effort to take over control of the government.

The seceding States were never attempting to take over the federal government. They were wanting to leave it.

A war of northern aggression to prevent southern independence? Sure.

Civil war? Not by a long shot.

That's a major oversimplification of all of the history that led to the war and what led to the war ending. Also, at the conclusion of the war, the South did indeed kill the sitting US President...

But the South still lost the war. Why would the country that was (re?)formed after the war keep things that honor those who wanted to pull apart from the United States?

It was done as part of the healing process for the Nation among many reasons.....

They were "American Soldiers" and deserve respect as such..........

They were Confederate Soldiers and if you asked them, I would imagine they wouldn't identify as American Soldiers.

But even if we respect them, why honor them by putting their name on a ton of things?

Honestly, the Confederate generals and leaders were lucky that they weren't treated as leaders of a lost war are normally treated - execution.

Anyway, I just don't see how in 2023 it makes sense to keep the names of American dissenters on a bunch of buildings. What's the harm in updating things to honor more modern American heros?

 

[glenbo]

I don't really have any skin in this game and don't care either way, but I think it's important to challenge viewpoints on both sides of conversations to build an understanding and rationale for myself (and maybe others).


That's a major oversimplification of all of the history that led to the war and what led to the war ending. Also, at the conclusion of the war, the South did indeed kill the sitting US President...

But the South still lost the war. Why would the country that was (re?)formed after the war keep things that honor those who wanted to pull apart from the United States?


They were Confederate Soldiers and if you asked them, I would imagine they wouldn't identify as American Soldiers.

But even if we respect them, why honor them by putting their name on a ton of things?

Honestly, the Confederate generals and leaders were lucky that they weren't treated as leaders of a lost war are normally treated - execution.

Anyway, I just don't see how in 2023 it makes sense to keep the names of American dissenters on a bunch of buildings. What's the harm in updating things to honor more modern American heros?

Pissing on history is just fine. Who needs it?

 

[MTA]

Devil's advocate here...but...why does anyone care if bases are renamed?

The confederacy lost the Civil War and in the years after the war, some people from the South decided to name things (streets, colleges, military bases, and etc) after generals from the losing side of the war to give a longterm middle finger to the North.

The Civil War and all components of it should absolutely be taught in schools, but why does it make sense to name things after generals and leaders from the side that literally lost the war?

Where did you move from?

 

[BigRed]

I don't really have any skin in this game and don't care either way, but I think it's important to challenge viewpoints on both sides of conversations to build an understanding and rationale for myself (and maybe others).


That's a major oversimplification of all of the history that led to the war and what led to the war ending. Also, at the conclusion of the war, the South did indeed kill the sitting US President...

But the South still lost the war. Why would the country that was (re?)formed after the war keep things that honor those who wanted to pull apart from the United States?


They were Confederate Soldiers and if you asked them, I would imagine they wouldn't identify as American Soldiers.

But even if we respect them, why honor them by putting their name on a ton of things?

Honestly, the Confederate generals and leaders were lucky that they weren't treated as leaders of a lost war are normally treated - execution.

Anyway, I just don't see how in 2023 it makes sense to keep the names of American dissenters on a bunch of buildings. What's the harm in updating things to honor more modern American heros?

I sincerely encourage you to study history much deeper.

 

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@wiredgeorge
Glad they are using your tax dollars and not mine. I don't have any to spare.

 

[V-Tach]

I'm out.........

 

[General Zod]

They were Confederate Soldiers and if you asked them, I would imagine they wouldn't identify as American Soldiers.

You would imagine incorrectly. Look into the actual history. Look into the reunions the veterans had in the decades after the war, where men from both sides were welcomed and enjoyed fellowship with each other. The US government declared all Confederate veterans to be US veterans, and it was the US government that named the bases that are being renamed now. It was an effort at healing, which is the exact opposite motivation of the current renaming move.

Also, it's a fucking waste of money. These bases have had these names for nearly a century, and now suddenly documents, buildings, electronic records, and God knows what else will need to be renamed. Not to mention the confusion this will sow for anyone looking into a person's military service or reading military history...all to satisfy the whim of people who are seeking to sweep history under the rug.

So where does it end? Do we retroactively rename anything and everything that was named for a Confederate officer? Should the M3 Jackson tank destroyer from WWII and Korea be renamed because it was named for Stonewall Jackson? Do we rename the M3 Lee tank from WWII? Do we extend it to people who have the same last name as Confederate figures? Should Samuel L Jackson be forced to change his name? Or maybe we should retroactively rename Miles Davis because he shared a last name with Jefferson Davis?

Tell me, where do we draw the line? Maybe we should've drawn it before this useless expenditure of money aimed at making a small number of loud, ignorant people happy...