Army chooses Sig Sauer to build its Next Generation Squad Weapon

[TheDan]

Army chooses Sig Sauer to build its Next Generation Squad Weapon

The weapon has an advanced optic, shoots 6.8mm and will replace the M4 carbine and M249 SAW.

www.armytimes.com

What do we know about this new 6.8? Not SPC I'm assuming...

 

[TheDan]

ooh, just found a better article... it's a 6.8x51

XM5, XM250 rifles and 6.8mm hybrid ammo selected as US NGSW

US Army has made its choice in the NGSW project - NGSW is short for Next Generation Squad Weapon, BulgarianMilitary.com has learned, citing Soldat&Technik.

bulgarianmilitary.com

 

[Vaquero]

Army chooses Sig Sauer to build its Next Generation Squad Weapon

The weapon has an advanced optic, shoots 6.8mm and will replace the M4 carbine and M249 SAW.

www.armytimes.com

What do we know about this new 6.8? Not SPC I'm assuming...

They aren't giving much information on the cartridge.

 

[Vaquero]

Nevermind

 

[oldag]

https://news.yahoo.com/army-chooses-sig-sauer-build-225152088.html

 

[TheDan]

Brass body with a steel case head. Seems unnecessarily complicated, but it would make picking up your brass easier

 

[Vaquero]

Brass body with a steel case head. Seems unnecessarily complicated, but it would make picking up your brass easier

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I do wonder about reloadability.
Primer pocket in particular.

 

[TheDan]

Smart optic made by Vortex, too... I hope it has a mechanical reticle in addition to the calculated one for when the electronics shit the bed.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I do wonder about reloadability.
Primer pocket in particular.

Uncle Sam don’t reload

 

[gll]

Uncle Sam don’t reload

Uncle Sam has deep pockets that reach ever deeper into ours...

 

[tekiwap]

I figure Sig would win. Good on them.

Army chooses Sig Sauer to build its Next Generation Squad Weapon

The weapon has an advanced optic, shoots 6.8mm and will replace the M4 carbine and M249 SAW.

www.armytimes.com

 

[Vaquero]

Uncle Sam don’t reload

His money machines do.

 

[Vaquero]

Merged

 

[Texasjack]

Word has gone out in the last couple of weeks that the DOD plans to re-open several of the old ammo plants that they used back in WWII. Billion$ for re-fitting them and then more billion$ for production. It makes sense if they are suddenly switching to the 6.8. Winchester is taking the lead and the Lake City plant is involved.

As someone already pointed out, Uncle Sam doesn't reload. For a short period during the Obama Administration, military ranges were ordered to dispose of brass instead of selling it to recyclers. The financial impact of that embarrassed them enough that they backed off, but clearly the Commiecrats don't want military brass going to civilians. The new composite case is lighter than conventional ammo, cheaper to produce (because of high brass cost), and has a very strong base.

SIG has announced that they will produce a civilian version to be called the .277 SIG FURY. Supposedly it's ballistically similar to the .270 short mag.

 

[Darkpriest667]

Army awards Next Generation Squad Weapon contract

The U.S. Army announced the award of a 10-year firm-fixed-price follow-on production contract to for the manufacture and delivery of the NGSW.

www.army.mil

SIG got the contract. Caliber is changing to 6.8 they didn't specify which cartridge. May be 6.8 SPC but I didnt see it specifically mention it.

 

[Vaquero]

Merged

 

[TheDan]

cheaper to produce

I can see the materials cost being cheaper, but would think the process of making a two piece cartridge would cost more.

Either way I look forward to Lake City pumping out billions of rounds and picking up a .277 SIG upper for my PA10

 

[TheDan]

I suspect some of the premium features Vortex came up with for the optic will trickle down to the rest of their line, too...

 

[Darkpriest667]

I looked at the rifle and caliber they plan on changing over to. I can't see any reason that this should be the typical infantryman weapon. Almost all engagements are within 300 meters and this thing boasts performance above 6.5 creedmor.

You get less rounds, less capacity per magazine, and it's heavier. This is completely stupid. For Specops or special warfare missions I understand, but that 6.8x51 has no more armor penetration than a 5.56 when talking about level 4 plates, which is what most combat troops should and do wear.

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

Smart optic made by Vortex, too... I hope it has a mechanical reticle in addition to the calculated one for when the electronics shit the bed.

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I was surprised they went with Vortex. The "just as good" guys should be happy. Disclaimer, I own quite a few Vortex products and am happy with them but will admit that some of the purchases were a cost/benefit compromise.