ATF receiver rule vacated
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That won't stop any of these Democrat scum from violating the Constitution. They want to make subjects out of all of us and their constituents are brain damaged fools that are willing to allow it. It's up to us to make sure it doesn't happen. Make sure your Representative and our Senators State and Federal even that pos Cornyn knows that you won't put up with violations of the Constitution. It may end up taking a hundred million gun owner march on DC.
John Sam Rayburn
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Thank you Renegade!Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
On April 11, 2022, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule 2021R-05F, Definition of “Frame or Receiver” and Identification of Firearms. The goal of the final rule is to ensure the proper marking, recordkeeping, and traceability of all firearms manufactured, imported, acquired and disposed by...www.atf.gov
The rule change was as much clarifying what was and wasn't a firearm as it was about restricting 'incomplete' receivers. AR-15 lowers, for example, had been ruled 'not a firearm' by courts due to the old rule. Guys could buy the 80% 'Glock clone' kits and have them fully machined, assembled, and firing in less than 30 minutes; the BATF was trying to stop that and got greedy. Of course, the BATF, being the BATF, made the new rules 'clear as mud' and contradictory to each other.
Fortunately, we have much better gun rights groups than we had in 1968 (and 1986), so this stuff isn't going to just be carved in stone by bureaucratic fiat.
Eli
(Edited to correct typo.)
Fortunately, we have much better gun rights groups than we had in 1968 (and 1986), so this stuff isn't going to just be carved in stone by bureaucratic fiat.
Eli
(Edited to correct typo.)
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For those who like to 'geek' out on the legal mumbo jumbo of this court action might want to watch Washington Gun Law channel. The lawyer explains the legal stuff why the rule was turned down and what/how this ruling might impact the pistol brace rule. Stayed tuned for next episode. My question to this channel and the one above MrGunsnGear is this the end or can ATF appeal?
I'm not a legal scholar, but I'd wait to see if the DOJ files an appeal. Just because the lower court struck it down, doesn't mean Brandon won't want to appeal. But I'm with everyone hoping that the next true fall will be pistol braces and then suppressors.
motorcarman
Compulsive Collector
Those are great, but require more work than the competitive offerings by ReCreator, Childers, and AK-Builder - if only Tortort would start making 80% Galils again...
Eli
motorcarman
Compulsive Collector
I still have a few AK Builder blanks (Russian and Hungarian) but I did not see that they were selling again.
They all said OUT OF STOCK for so long, I quit looking.
They all said OUT OF STOCK for so long, I quit looking.
motorcarman
Compulsive Collector
AK builders OUT OF STOCK for the 80% receivers.
They, along with ReCreator, withdrew them from the market - Childers and AOA have them available.
Eli
Right after Biden & Co.
The legal and political strategy for Biden and ATF is to pass as many rules as possible hoping that something will get by the court challenges and disarm lawful and responsible gun owners. Politically it's the 'do something' before the next election.
motorcarman
Compulsive Collector
I have no idea about anything other than AKM kits but YES you do need a few shop tools to make a semi-professional looking firearm as an end result.
Something satisfying about a good looking/functioning end result.
Drilling/riveting locations are the most important.
PS Headspacing might be a good skill also!!!!!!!!!
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Not just ATF; just about every federal agency was handed stacks of NPRMs to file on day one as part of the grand progressive compromise to get him elected.
