CCI new ammo

[Moonpie]

This isn't a new idea.
Long long ago in a galaxy far far away the was a gun company that made a full auto .22 rifle known as an American 180. It used a drum mag much like a Lewis Gun.
A big issue with it was gunk build up using standard 22lr ammo. At the rate of fire it ran it gunked up quickly and would MALF.
An new cartridge was introduced then to correct that. It was known as the .22 American.
It was just a .22mag cut down to 22lr length yet loaded with a jacketed 22mag bullet.
This eased the jamming issue but the ammo was too expensive.
It didn't catch on then. The cartridges themselves are collector items today.

Regardless, I will give these a try when they become available.
I have a 10/22 and some 110rd GSG mags that just might run better using this ammo.

 

[smittyb]

This isn't a new idea.
Long long ago in a galaxy far far away the was a gun company that made a full auto .22 rifle known as an American 180. It used a drum mag much like a Lewis Gun.
A big issue with it was gunk build up using standard 22lr ammo. At the rate of fire it ran it gunked up quickly and would MALF.
An new cartridge was introduced then to correct that. It was known as the .22 American.
It was just a .22mag cut down to 22lr length yet loaded with a jacketed 22mag bullet.
This eased the jamming issue but the ammo was too expensive.
It didn't catch on then. The cartridges themselves are collector items today.

Regardless, I will give these a try when they become available.
I have a 10/22 and some 110rd GSG mags that just might run better using this ammo.

While I am aware of the AR180, I have never heard of this 22 American.
Do you have a link to more info about it?
Google leads me to no results or info at all really.

 

[Lead Belly]

CCI Upercut $13/50= .26 cents/round

 

[Moonpie]

While I am aware of the AR180, I have never heard of this 22 American.
Do you have a link to more info about it?
Google leads me to no results or info at all really.

.22 ILARCO - Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia

firearmwiki.com

 

[Moonpie]

CCI Upercut $13/50= .26 cents/round

oooof

 

[deemus]

Do that many people use 22 LR as a defense round?

 

[Moonpie]

Do that many people use 22 LR as a defense round?

I've no idea. Probably more than you think I'd bet.

 

[smittyb]

.22 ILARCO - Firearm Wiki: The Internet Gun Encyclopedia

firearmwiki.com

Well I’ll be

 

[DaBull]

Intended for short barrelled handguns, just how poorly would it perform in a 16" barrel?

 

[Moonpie]

Intended for short barrelled handguns, just how poorly would it perform in a 16" barrel?

Smokes along about 1400fps. Bullet comes apart on impact.
That 22 Plinkster video has a gel/bullet part about this,

 

[DaBull]

Shooting it out of a 16" barrel, I don't see anything wrong with full expansion (pancakes with petals broken off). So is the concern overpenetration (in/out)? I haven't considered shooting regular .22LR (RN or HP) out of a rifle for home defense so I am not sure if Uppercut is an improvement or not if both will overpenetrate.

 

[Renegade]

Well I’ll be

ditto.

Knew about and have shot the 180 (it is a blast), but not the cartridge. Odd it came out after 1986 MG ban, but development probably started before that.

 

[benenglish]

A big issue with it was gunk build up using standard 22lr ammo. At the rate of fire it ran it gunked up quickly and would MALF.

I have read that if the rifle mags were loaded to highest capacity, just two mag dumps would leave the rifle so dirty that you might as well retire from the line and give it a full cleaning. Otherwise it was just too frustrating to try to continue.

2 mags, clean, 2 mags, clean...that could get really boring, really fast.

I doubt I'll ever be able to confirm that with a hands-on test.

 

[deemus]

Shooting it out of a 16" barrel, I don't see anything wrong with full expansion (pancakes with petals broken off). So is the concern overpenetration (in/out)? I haven't considered shooting regular .22LR (RN or HP) out of a rifle for home defense so I am not sure if Uppercut is an improvement or not if both will overpenetrate.

It would seem a few fragments would do much less than an intact bullet. Pretty sure we’ve seen that data on here before

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

I'll be picking up a few boxes to see how they fare with Utah prairie dogs. Sometimes those bigger dogs take a few minimags and this might be good medicine for the closer dogs I don't want to waste a .223 or .22-250 on.

 

[deemus]

I'll be picking up a few boxes to see how they fare with Utah prairie dogs. Sometimes those bigger dogs take a few minimags and this might be good medicine for the closer dogs I don't want to waste a .223 or .22-250 on.

I'm a fan of the red cloud the 223 BT gives me.

 

[DoubleDuty]

Wonder how that compares to Federals personal defense?

 

[DoubleDuty]

Do that many people use 22 LR as a defense round?

Well the mafia likes to shoot people in the back of the head with a 22

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

I'm a fan of the red cloud the 223 BT gives me.

Same.

During the years when the dogs are few and longer range I'll lean heavy on the centerfires. In the years of plenty, the 22lr has duties out to +-125yds.

 

[robertc1024]

Good on CCI for doing something different. I don't have any use for it. I prefer bigger holes in, ummm, "targets" for self defense.