Law Enforcement and Crew Served Weapons

[Bobk]

This weekend while watching a video from New York City, i thought that I saw a picture of Law Enforcement with a M249 SAW mounted on a boat. Didn't think much about it. Today on Yahoo, I saw a photo of alleged Law enforcement with a M249 SAW mounted on a HUMVEE. Anybody else find their use of crew-served weapons as interesting?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/0...r-gun-control-federal-agencies-are-arming-up/

"The 1033 Program prohibits the transfer of property whose predominant purpose is combat operations (e.g. tanks, fighter aircraft, Strykers, tracked vehicles,weapons greater than 7.62mm, grenade launchers, sniper rifles and crew-served weapons)."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/federal_support_for_local_law_enforcement_equipment_acquisition.pdf

 

[Maverick44]

 

[RACER X]

Hmm would hate to be on the water on the Rio and go be out-gunned

 

[diesel1959]

This weekend while watching a video from New York City, i thought that I saw a picture of Law Enforcement with a M249 SAW mounted on a boat. Didn't think much about it. Today on Yahoo, I saw a photo of alleged Law enforcement with a M249 SAW mounted on a HUMVEE. Anybody else find their use of crew-served weapons as interesting?

https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/0...r-gun-control-federal-agencies-are-arming-up/

"The 1033 Program prohibits the transfer of property whose predominant purpose is combat operations (e.g. tanks, fighter aircraft, Strykers, tracked vehicles,weapons greater than 7.62mm, grenade launchers, sniper rifles and crew-served weapons)."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/federal_support_for_local_law_enforcement_equipment_acquisition.pdf

State and/or Local law enforcement don't need to go through the 1033 program if they don't wish to. State and Local (including City & County) LE are legally permitted to make direct purchases of brand new NFA items from the manufacturer. NYPD Marine units could buy them straight from FN and there's NOTHING the federal gov't could do to nix the purchase. The purchase(s) are done tax-exempt via Form 5, and are also free from having to pay any excise tax.

 

[seeker_two]

Texas DPS has to deal with foreign invaders on a daily basis. Unless there's a danger of NYC being invaded by militant Canadians, their LEO's don't need belt-fed machine guns.

....besides, NYC doesn't need the firepower. They have gun control....

 

[diesel1959]

Texas DPS has to deal with foreign invaders on a daily basis. Unless there's a danger of NYC being invaded by militant Canadians, their LEO's don't need belt-fed machine guns.

....besides, NYC doesn't need the firepower. They have gun control....

Thankfullly, you don't get to decide that fact. The Coast Guard can't be everywhere and there's a whole lot of stuff that the NYPD Marine units deal with that would curl your hair. Out on the water, it does not pay to be outgunned. Just saying.

 

[Bobk]

20(+) years ago I did a JTF-6 mission on Falcon Lake. I can see the DPS practical application of the weapons on waterways for counter drug interdiction/human trafficking.

Diesel1959 agree with your comments in regards to the Coast Guard not being able to be everywhere.

Maverick44, great photos of the DPS gun boats. Thanks for posting the link!

 

[peeps]

border operations...ok, maybe.

humvee's in my city's streets? hell no

 

[texas skeeter]

LEO's don't need belt-fed machine guns.

border operations...ok, maybe.

humvee's in my city's streets? hell no

Yeah tell that to the next city or town where armed men with AK47s wearing Kevlar from head to tow are robbing a bank and shooting up the place!!


I have no problem with it....

 

[Dawico]

I don't like it.

Mainly because I can't buy them.

 

[cbigclarke]

I'm with Dawico

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[Vaquero]

I'm with Dawico

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What he said

 

[Army 1911]

It's okay. The mags and belts are only ten rounds.

 

[zincwarrior]

Yeah tell that to the next city or town where armed men with AK47s wearing Kevlar from head to tow are robbing a bank and shooting up the place!!


I have no problem with it....

It becomes an issue when they take the same equipment and mentality to serve simple warrants. Then they go from police to occupiers.

 

[oldag]

It becomes an issue when they take the same equipment and mentality to serve simple warrants. Then they go from police to occupiers.

And there I agree with zw. Too many no-knocks, too many SWAT invasions.

 

[zincwarrior]

And there I agree with zw. Too many no-knocks, too many SWAT invasions.

Exactly. It seriously erodes the relationship between the police and the population.

When I lived in the joy of Pomona, Ca. for a few years I saw that first hand.

 

[easy rider]

Why not law enforcement, everybody else is:


[FONT=&amp]Federal Agencies Purchasing Guns, Ammunition,[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]and Military-Style Equipment Since 2006[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]FEDERAL AGENCY SUM OF $$ OBLIGATED[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1900: STATE, DEPARTMENT OF $217,527,279.92[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7012: U.S. IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT $210,760,263.84[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7014: U.S. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION $162,634,458.82[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1540: FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM $157,812,566.74[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7555: OFFICE OF ASST SECRETARY FOR HEALTH EXCEPT NATIONAL CENTERS $121,764,002.82[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1549: FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION $101,905,658.15[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7008: U.S. COAST GUARD $85,566,266.51[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7015: FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER $62,927,980.57[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1524: DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION $38,345,703.88[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7009: U.S. SECRET SERVICE $33,260,037.96[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]4732: FEDERAL ACQUISITION SERVICE $33,037,146.91[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]4730: FEDERAL ACQUISITION SERVICE $32,424,589.25[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7013: TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION $29,565,517.72[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1406: OFFICE OF POLICY, BUDGET AND ADMINISTRATION $25,849,568.89[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1544: U.S. MARSHALS SERVICE $25,415,239.71[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1560: ATF ACQUISITION AND PROPERTY MGMT DIV $18,162,779.72[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]8900: ENERGY, DEPARTMENT OF $15,625,114.57[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7001: OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT OPERATIONS $12,453,000.52[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1443: NATIONAL PARK SERVICE $11,819,916.02[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]3600: VETERANS AFFAIRS, DEPARTMENT OF $11,661,552.47[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]2050: INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE $10,711,792.17[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]12C2: FOREST SERVICE $5,820,017.80[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]12K3: ANIMAL AND PLANT HEALTH INSPECTION SERVICE $4,770,517.07[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1450: BUREAU OF INDIAN AFFAIRS $3,773,192.11[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1448: U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE SERVICE $3,463,813.55[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]8000: NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION $3,432,617.66[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]6800: ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY $3,116,189.87[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]2036: BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT $2,792,060.65[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1422: BUREAU OF LAND MANAGEMENT $2,194,574.11[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7200: AGENCY FOR INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT $2,081,002.65[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1434: GEOLOGICAL SURVEY $1,333,202.85[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1425: BUREAU OF RECLAMATION $1,162,564.55[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]2041: BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING $1,103,521.91[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1330: NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION $1,016,893.46[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]2044: UNITED STATES MINT $987,574.91[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]1204: OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL $912,666.67[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]7524: FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION $814,773.97[/FONT]

 

[BRD@66]

And there I agree with zw.

Careful. That is a slippery slope.

 

[zincwarrior]

If it helps I've been experimenting with home maple glazing and smoking bacon...would you like some bacon???? heh heh heh

 

[oldag]

Careful. That is a slippery slope.

Just this once, I promise...