Pistol Brace Amnesty/Registration

[kbaxter60]

but the govt doesn't run out of money nor time,

Or bad ideas, it seems.

 

[Gordo]

People who registered their braced pistol.

 

[PinnedandRecessed]

Retailers are selling pistols with attached braces again.

 

[Dave Z]

Not a lawyer, but an injunction temporarily bans a ruling from being enforced, so braces are legal to purchase, possess and use until such time as the injunction is overturned or the law changed...

The law was never changed, the BAFTE under directions from the White House interperted the law differently. The BAFTE cannot create or alter a law, that's Congress's responsibility, the BAFTE only enforces the existing laws.

 

[toddnjoyce]

The law was never changed.

Which law? The CFR, which is the codified administrative law of the federal government and it’s agencies, was changed and is as legally binding on the federal government as the US Code is.

 

[TXOFFSHORE]

Or bad ideas, it seems.

Never…

 

[Otto_Mation]

Anybody know the answer to these hypothetical questions? Assume you have a registered SBR. Can you remove the stock from your registered SBR and take it across state lines as a pistol without an ATF permission slip?

Assume the brace rule gets struck down and braced pistols are legal (again). Could you install a brace on it and take it across state lines without the permission slip?

Or is it always treated as SBR no matter what form it is in because it has been registered?

yes
yes
no

Unless it is removed from the registry, it is an SBR no matter what stock you have on it.

That wasn't the question he asked though. As it pertains to crossing state lines, the ATF only cares if the firearm is currently configured as a NFA item. If you put a pistol brace on or slap a 16" upper on a SBR receiver, it is effectively no longer a NFA item and therefore not subject to the requirement for ATF approval for interstate travel.

Also, what you said is not quite true. A SBR is not always a SBR. It's only a SBR if it has a short barrel (it's in the name ). If you remove the short barrel and don't replace it with another short barrel, that firearm is no longer an NFA item and can be treated or sold as you could any other rifle. It doesn't matter if the lower is on the registry as a SBR. Without a short barrel, it's not a NFA item, and you have no duty to even notify the ATF of this. This is from the ATF's old website.

With conflicting answers to my question, (most were correct) I decided to contact the ATF for their answer and today received the following:

Thank you for your inquiry to the Firearms Industry Programs Branch (FIPB).

Yes, if the firearm is in the configuration of a pistol, you could transport interstate without notifying the ATF NFA Division. You only need approval when the firearm is in the NFA configuration.

 

[TheDan]

With conflicting answers to my question, (most were correct) I decided to contact the ATF for their answer and today received the following:

Thank you for your inquiry to the Firearms Industry Programs Branch (FIPB).

Yes, if the firearm is in the configuration of a pistol, you could transport interstate without notifying the ATF NFA Division. You only need approval when the firearm is in the NFA configuration.

Don't worry, they'll update that rule in a few years.

 

[Lead Belly]

Determination: Legality in this matter depends on the way the wind blows....

 

[TheDan]

Has anybody that joined recently received their membership from FPC?

My FPC member card came in the mail today. It's just generic, tho... Doesn't have my name or a date on it. Came with a few stickers and a gay morale patch, too.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

My FPC member card came in the mail today. It's just generic, tho... Doesn't have my name or a date on it. Came with a few stickers and a gay morale patch, too.

Thank you.

I'm still waiting.

 

[jimbo]

Has anybody that joined recently received their membership from FPC?

I received mine today. I joined in April this year.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I received mine today. I joined in April this year.

Thanks.

 

[GeorgeS]

...and a gay lame morale patch, too.

FIFY

 

[Sasquatch]

FIFY

What if his morale patch said "Its okay to be gay so long as you didn't register your braced pistol"

 

[GeorgeS]

That works!

And it's okay to be gay. Some of the nicest people I've met in my life are gay and a lot of them were gun-owners.

 

[TheDan]

FIFY

You're the one that thinks gay=lame. I meant what I said. The vetbro stuff is very gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[jimbo]

You're the one that thinks gay=lame. I meant what I said. The vetbro stuff is very gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Here is the velcrow patch I received with my membership card.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Anyone running a pistol brace on the Glock or 1911?

 

[GeorgeS]

You're the one that thinks gay=lame. I meant what I said. The vetbro stuff is very gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.