Some "good" movies.
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PinnedandRecessed
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"Masters of the Air" was decent in it's own way. It is a far third amongst "Band of Brothers" and "The Pacific". I think they tried to do too much and glossed over a lot to add things that were not as important.
I thought overall it was pretty good.
My gripes are that it condensed a lot of time in to its run which made it a little strange to track at times. I’d be halfway through an episode before figuring it it had jumped months forward. I understand why they did it, but it wasn’t always clear it had happened.
My other grip is with some of the effects. I forgive a lot due to being interested in the story and history. I didn’t need photo realistic. It was more that a couple times they put so much on the screen at once it just became a mess, and really wasn’t all that realistic in terms of air combat. Not all, just a couple scenes. I think they wanted that big blockbuster look but it didn’t come across. And the P-51s, especially in the Red Tails mission looked horrendous. Again; not the models used so much as the way they moved. They looked like toys on a string or stick being wiggled around.
But overall it was a positive experience and I enjoyed the series. Hard to do a series like that with bombers I think. They don’t have the exciting appeal that fighters get. So taking a little license here and there is forgivable I think.
Edit to add: It’s actually surprising it was made after the major losses taken on The Pacific.
PinnedandRecessed
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"Masters" cost $250-300mil + $60mil for Covid fees. I would have guessed much less.
"Pacific" broke the bank at $215mil+- but, IMO, it was worth it due to the quality of the series and HBO should get their money back eventually through syndication.
HBO hasn't released actual numbers so everything is conjecture but one can make the argument that HBO was gun shy about "Masters" due to "Pacific's" performance.
Visuals in "Masters" could be downright hokey. Air battles seemed to be less important to the story besides "hey, look at all the bombers getting blown up".
ETA: I think they spent too much time on Crosby in general and we didn't need to added storyline that went nowhere about his lady friend.
The Tuskegee airmen could have gotten more screen time as escorts to the bombers and featured in some dogfighting vs the 5 min mission that got them all shot down.
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It was based on a book. Not sure how closely they fallowed the book but that could explain a lot of the story. The British woman was thrown in as a single character representation of many different women who worked in British intelligence. It was done poorly though.
It was built up to be about bombers so I didn’t expect much time to be spent on fighters. For all they tried to cram in to the season, I really don’t think there was much room for it. Would be cool to see a sister show that followed a couple fighter groups instead.
I’ve watched some stuff covering The Pacific and all the evidence points to massive losses. At this point I think the best HBO could hope for would be to break even eventually. Its also widely held that it went way over its budget. Just didn’t get the same mainstream appeal as Band of Brothers.
PinnedandRecessed
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I'm about 25% through the book. I agree, the spy plot was intended to highlight women in the service. The Tuskegee airmen showcased in the miniseries did not fly with the 100th as escorts. It seemed the series was trying too hard to include aspects of the war/society that had little to do with the 100th Bomber Group to appease critics into not saying it was just another white man war movie.
I liked the original a lot. But I can't watch a movie with that Jake G "dude" in it, or I see the poster for Brokeback Mountain. Yuck, no.
seeker_two
My posts don't count....
You don't like movies with sweaty guys grappling with each other in scenic locales?......
....you wouldn't last a day in a Turkish prison.
PinnedandRecessed
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The man is an actor. Plenty of straight actors have ACTED in homosexual roles.
Tommy Lee Jones
Robin Williams
Daniel Day Lewis
Tom Hanks
Antonio Banderas
Matt Damon
Michael Douglas
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
George Carlin
Ewan McGregor
Steve Buscemi......
Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters. - IMDb
Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters.
www.imdb.com
Thank you, Dr Freud.The man is an actor. Plenty of straight actors have ACTED in homosexual roles.
Tommy Lee Jones
Robin Williams
Daniel Day Lewis
Tom Hanks
Antonio Banderas
Matt Damon
Michael Douglas
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
George Carlin
Ewan McGregor
Steve Buscemi......
I understand not wanting to see certain movies for a multitude of reasons but some of ya'll got some latent issues to work through.Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters. - IMDb
Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters.
You forgot Daniel T Jackson. Played Alpa Chino in Tropic Thunder. Closeted homosexual who found peace with himself and his life partner Lance after his harrowing experience.The man is an actor. Plenty of straight actors have ACTED in homosexual roles.
Tommy Lee Jones
Robin Williams
Daniel Day Lewis
Tom Hanks
Antonio Banderas
Matt Damon
Michael Douglas
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
George Carlin
Ewan McGregor
Steve Buscemi......
I understand not wanting to see certain movies for a multitude of reasons but some of ya'll got some latent issues to work through.Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters. - IMDb
Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters.
PinnedandRecessed
Allegedly
Watched it last night. Good, but the original was better.
So what's worse, a straight actor playing a gay character or a gay actor playing a straight person?The man is an actor. Plenty of straight actors have ACTED in homosexual roles.
Tommy Lee Jones
Robin Williams
Daniel Day Lewis
Tom Hanks
Antonio Banderas
Matt Damon
Michael Douglas
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
George Carlin
Ewan McGregor
Steve Buscemi......
I understand not wanting to see certain movies for a multitude of reasons but some of ya'll got some latent issues to work through.Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters. - IMDb
Straight Actors Who Have Played Gay Characters.
I don't think it much matters either way.
We saw "Accidental Texan" yesterday.
It wasn't bad. It wasn't great.
I'd watch it on streaming video at home, but wouldn't drive to see it again.
It's about Taylor county and Abilene area folks. And oil company bullshit.
Hokey. But so is most of life around here.
It wasn't bad. It wasn't great.
I'd watch it on streaming video at home, but wouldn't drive to see it again.
It's about Taylor county and Abilene area folks. And oil company bullshit.
Hokey. But so is most of life around here.
PinnedandRecessed
Allegedly
Reference the post I was responding to. Poster did not want to watch Roadhouse because the lead actor had played a gay man in a different movie. Hence, my inference to latent issues.
To your question, the answer is neither. That was the point of my post.
Texasgordo
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I loved the first 2 movies but the 3rd one was a big pile of shit. Hope this one is good and not woke.
