Sons of Guns

[texas_teacher]

Why do they associate a Saiga everytime someone mentions shotgun? You see it with the suppressed shotgun and with the breeching round. Interesting.

 

[Acera]

And them acting like they built the first real (non-movie) suppressed shotgun......

YouTube - Silenced shot gun and air rifle

YouTube - Silencer Research 410 Shotgun Silencer
YouTube - Suppressed 410 Shotgun

YouTube - Pump-action shot gun with silencer

 

[texas_teacher]

And them acting like they built the first real (non-movie) suppressed shotgun......

YouTube - Silenced shot gun and air rifle

YouTube - Silencer Research 410 Shotgun Silencer
YouTube - Suppressed 410 Shotgun

YouTube - Pump-action shot gun with silencer

I like the look of that last one. I love love LOVE the fact that the racking a fresh load is louder than the actual shot...

 

[majormadmax]

I watched the "Masterkey" episode, it wasn't bad but it does come close to being American Chopper for firearms! I was confused as to what was so "original" about it, but at least it was interesting. I set the DVR to record one of the next episodes with the Browning machine gun, I'm not going to record the series until I am certain it won't be a waste of time. I've already got enough episodes of Guns of the World that I haven't watched...

Cheers! M2

p.s. If The guy's gonna quote Clint Eastwood, he should get it correct!

"This is the AK-47 assault rifle, the preferred weapon of your enemy; and it makes a distinctive sound when fired at you, so remember it."

 

[texas_teacher]

I watched the "Masterkey" episode, it wasn't bad but it does come close to being American Chopper for firearms! I was confused as to what was so "original" about it, but at least it was interesting. I set the DVR to record one of the next episodes with the Browning machine gun, I'm not going to record the series until I am certain it won't be a waste of time. I've already got enough episodes of Guns of the World that I haven't watched...

Cheers! M2

p.s. If The guy's gonna quote Clint Eastwood, he should get it correct!

"This is the AK-47 assault rifle, the preferred weapon of your enemy; and it makes a distinctive sound when fired at you, so remember it."

Here's what I was confused about with the Masterkey... Why do you need a shotgun that has a monster magazine on it? Wouldn't a standard 3 round semi-auto be sufficient if it is purely a breeching element of the M16? I think using something like a Remington Versa Max would have made assembly and the concept a lot easier... Just my two cents...

 

[majormadmax]

Here's what I was confused about with the Masterkey... Why do you need a shotgun that has a monster magazine on it? Wouldn't a standard 3 round semi-auto be sufficient if it is purely a breeching element of the M16? I think using something like a Remington Versa Max would have made assembly and the concept a lot easier... Just my two cents...

Agreed, and I was thinking the same thing myself. It only requires a few rounds to breech the door (usually only one, but it's always good to have a few extras). I am sure many of us could have come up with a much better solution...

 

[matefrio]

Police officers\SWAT are oooed and ahhhed by "Tactical" looking, cool factor devices just like most people. Not all sales decisions are practical.

One of the biggest reasons I'm not rich today is I think too hard for the customer and forget to "sell the sizzle". So, I'm an engineer of sorts and not making millions in sales.

 

[texas_teacher]

Agreed, and I was thinking the same thing myself. It only requires a few rounds to breech the door (usually only one, but it's always good to have a few extras). I am sure many of us could have come up with a much better solution...

Exactly and you would think that with having to already carry so much weight in materials, equipment and uniforming that a lighter solution to the problem would have been something he would have thought about... Guess not...

 

[The Lox]

I liked the show, my only issue was he made it seem like he could just sell you the suppressed saiga without waiting on the tax stamp. That is not really thE case is it? I wasn't sure if there was a difference since he is manufacturing the items...

 

[craigntx]

the daughter is hot.
they should have done the masterkey with some pump shotgun. saiga is too bulky.

i can't believe swat would use an ak variant. wondering if a transaction actually took place of it was faked for ratings

 

[texas_teacher]

the 870 masterkey has been out for a LOOOONG while...

the only benefit, and cumbersome at the same time is the fact it is semi auto, the extra magazine hanging down doesn't help things in the being stealthy/efficient department.

We had gotten into a discussion of this on one of the rifle threads but would something like this need an additional stamp as an EOW? Or would it fall under a legal weapon as it would assume the stock of the AR15?

Pump action or auto-loading? Auto-loading seems like the way to go, but in a normal birding gun context, not a Saiga... Pump just seems like it might be a reach in order to grasp the foregrip in order to chamber the next round... Just my two cents... What do I know though... I don't own my own shop in Baton Rouge...

 

[TimberWolf7.62]

I just watched the episode with the alligator .410 bang stick, and I couldn't help but wonder why they didn't just buy a damned Taurus Judge .410 revolver? You get 5 shots instead of 1 in a package that's every bit as handy and easier to manipulate. Maybe $400 instead of the $300 that Red Jacket quoted, but I'd go for the extra $100 for the extra shots and functionality.

I guess basically I think that they take the long way around to build something when a better solution already exists. But it is a cool show overall.

The daughter is not my type, but not as fat as I originally thought, having seen some standing shots from the hand-held M1919 episode. Now if she'd just ditch the 1970's heavy blue eye shadow . . . .

 

[Jakashh]

I recall them calling an AK or some other rifle an "Assault Weapon" in the captions...

And they mount HK sights on the AK's dust cover... that doesn't seem like it'll hold zero, unless they have some unmentioned way of making that dust cover more sturdy.

Still like the show though, since it has anything to do with guns.

 

[SC-Texas]

Kind of goofy and the saga was nowhere near hearing safe.

But I like it.

 

[KAK]

If that bang stick didnt have rifling in it then it is an NFA short barreled shotgun if im not mistaken. So that would make the taurus judge FAR more appealing and cheaper.

That thing to scare off pirates was gay.

That remote controled vehicle top "machine gun" was just an AR with a beta C mag. Why no belt fed 30 cal?

Everything is going to open up a whole new market for them.

Other than that its an allright show.

 

[MoparRacer89]

Started out decent but I think its going downhill fast.

 

[Jakashh]

If that bang stick didnt have rifling in it then it is an NFA short barreled shotgun if im not mistaken. So that would make the taurus judge FAR more appealing and cheaper.

That thing to scare off pirates was gay.

That remote controled vehicle top "machine gun" was just an AR with a beta C mag. Why no belt fed 30 cal?

Everything is going to open up a whole new market for them.

Other than that its an allright show.

Yeah that pirate thing was not that scary. I'm sure there are better ways to scare off pirates other than fireworks. That way they're just entertaining them before they take over their ship.

 

[Jakashh]

If that bang stick didnt have rifling in it then it is an NFA short barreled shotgun if im not mistaken. So that would make the taurus judge FAR more appealing and cheaper.

That thing to scare off pirates was gay.

That remote controled vehicle top "machine gun" was just an AR with a beta C mag. Why no belt fed 30 cal?

Everything is going to open up a whole new market for them.

Other than that its an allright show.

Yeah that pirate thing was not that scary. I'm sure there are better ways to scare off pirates other than fireworks. That way they're just entertaining them before they take over their ship.

 

[Texas Bulldog]

This show is god damn retarded!

pointing guns at eachother and firing (Even if it is Blanks! Remember Brandon Lee?), Re-Inventing the wheel, Estes hobby Rockets! to deter pirates!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can go on and on and on... but god DAMN is this some stupid shit, and I like Top Shot!

The Alligator kill stick was an absolute joke and waste of time too... I can't keep watching! Its like not wanting to look at a bloody accident on the highway but you simply can't help yourself just waiting to hear what stupid shit they talk about next.

JOe

 

[KAK]

Bahahahahahaha