Texas LTC test: Can you use a non-magnifying red dot?
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Found this:
Per DPS rules, students cannot use a laser, red dot sight or scope.
but also:
Texas LTC Class Preparation Information - The Texas LTC (CHL) Coach
This is the information needed to prepare for a Texas License to Carry a Handgun class LTC with the Texas LTC Coach.
txchlcoach.com
but also:
that's a silly rule to me considering in TX you don't have to qualify every weapon you want listed on your permit. (yes, some states do that)
in other words, you can shoot the test with any pistol and then carry any pistol. So why make someone shoot it with irons if they're just going to go home and carry with a RDS.
in other words, you can shoot the test with any pistol and then carry any pistol. So why make someone shoot it with irons if they're just going to go home and carry with a RDS.
Polkwright
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I would imagine their goal is to test you under more difficult options, not the easiest. Should a match-grade .22 with a red-dot be allowed? I think not.
That goal is tempered by reality, and not wanting to make it too onerous. They used to not let you carry an auto if you qualified with a revolver. But you could carry a revolver if you qualified with an auto. They got rid of that. The test is not really difficult. If you can't pass it with iron sights you might need more training. You can even miss all the 15 yard rounds and still pass.
That goal is tempered by reality, and not wanting to make it too onerous. They used to not let you carry an auto if you qualified with a revolver. But you could carry a revolver if you qualified with an auto. They got rid of that. The test is not really difficult. If you can't pass it with iron sights you might need more training. You can even miss all the 15 yard rounds and still pass.
If nothing else, you learn about applicable law. That’s much more than most Constitutional carriers known.
A plus is they actually have at least some knowledge of how to use iron sights..........
Have any of you made your kids use iron sights on rifles before letting move on to a scope for the same reason?
Have any of you made your kids use iron sights on rifles before letting move on to a scope for the same reason?
I'll confess that I was super nervous and new to handguns when I did my CHL. Now, it'd be a no-brainer. I applaud her for getting her LTC license.
Fishkiller
TGT Addict
I always start with iron sights and driving with a manual transmission
When things government agencies do start making sense, it’s time to give up.
Most likely cause someone didn’t bother to update the verbiage or cause Dps doesn’t allow for dots on issue guns and the same folks write the important words.
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Polkwright
Active Member
The NRA Pistol Instructor qualification requires 16 out of 20 rounds in 6" at 15 yards on a specified target that has a grid but no real aiming point. Any pistol and red dots OK. People should use what they shoot best. I rented a 9mm 1911 for the LTC and used my High Standard .22 for the instructor qualification. Neither are difficult if one has some experience and an idea of what's easiest for them to shoot.
I talked with the instructor last night and asked him this question.
He noted TX DPS put out a clarification stating red dot sights are allowed but lasers are not.
Mrs. TXAZ was very concerned about it but Now ready for the shooting part in the morning.
Thanks for all the input.
He noted TX DPS put out a clarification stating red dot sights are allowed but lasers are not.
Mrs. TXAZ was very concerned about it but Now ready for the shooting part in the morning.
Thanks for all the input.
I would like more information on this clarification. I have not seen it or received it from DPS. On a search I am unable to find DPS documentation of this clarification. If any other LTC instructor could provide further information regarding this, it would be extremely helpful. Not saying it didn't happen, just would like to see the DPS documentation.
General Zod
TGT Addict
I don't own any scopes. I prefer irons. Plus, the only scopes I could afford would be crap anyway.
Yes, kids and grandkids.
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I hear ya. I know how to cipher but switched to a calculator a long time ago. Red dots more recently.
It’s really what your comfortable with.
