What ammo?

[alanwk]

In a situation that we see in Israel now if/when the SHTF what 9mm ammo would you have, 115g ball or HP? The ball ammo is much cheaper in bulk. This would not be ammo for concealed carry rather for home and personal defense. I hope this makes sense.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

Anyone asking what kind or God forbid how much, at this late date is a fool.


It's later than you think.

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[alanwk]

Anyone asking what kind or God forbid how much, at this late date is a fool.


It's later than you think.

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Anyone that assumes what and how much I have, is the fool.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

In a situation a bow and arrows are vastly superior to sticks and rocks draw your own conclusions


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[zackmars]

In a situation that we see in Israel now if/when the SHTF what 9mm ammo would you have, 115g ball or HP? The ball ammo is much cheaper in bulk. This would not be ammo for concealed carry rather for home and personal defense. I hope this makes sense.

I use the same 9mm ammo for home and personal defense that i use for concealed carry.

147gr JHP, either speer gold dot or Winchester ranger. You aren't going to be getting into sustained firefights in SHTF, and if you are, your going to die quickly.

For bulk stuff i try to stock 124gr NATO

 

[baboon]

First off is what can you afford? Defensive ammo is much more the cheap plinking ammo. Are you going to be running suppressed? Pistol or pistol caliber carbine? Biggest question what can you pistol handle? I have some +P+ Subgub 9mm that can crack slides & frames of many pistols.

I have always been of the school of thought the heavy bullets over lite are for killing. Heavy +P+ ammo might cause you to flinch & miss if you are recoil shy.

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Does that price scare you? I'm planning on ordering some to supplement the 9MM FEDERAL PERSONAL DEFENSE 147 GRAIN HST JHP.

 

[Otto_Mation]

SHTF situation calls for a rifle. My 9mm will be carried as always loaded with HST. The SBR will have M193 in it. I also have plenty of MK318 equivalent and M855. Chances of my running out of any of them are Zero.

 

[usmcpmi]

Bbbuutt Biden says we have to have an F-15 to defend ourselves...

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[Otto_Mation]

Bbbuutt Biden says we have to have an F-15 to defend ourselves...

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The crazy part of his statement is that he is saying that we need F-15 to protect ourselves (from our own government). That situation would be the definition of a tyrannical government. Even as far left as this country has moved I think that the likelihood of that SHTF scenario is very low. Other SHTF scenarios such as terror attacks and large scale leftest crime sprees like we see in the liberal areas of the country are much more likely.

 

[baboon]

SHTF situation calls for a rifle. My 9mm will be carried as always loaded with HST. The SBR will have M193 in it. I also have plenty of MK318 equivalent and M855. Chances of my running out of any of them are Zero.

MK 262 is more accurate & devastating on humans & feral hogs. Come to think of it everyone with concerns about a terror cell attack needs to buy some lard for their bullets.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

Shame it doesn't work like garlic on vampires

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[Lonesome Dove]

You'll get better answers on the internet than you will a gun forum you'll also get more laughs from both
ends.

 

[zackmars]

A 5.56 rifle is ideal, but looking at whats going on in Israel has me seriously looking more and more at 9mm PDW's.

MP5k's, TP9's, etc. It's not a 5.56, but all the super short 5.56's suck. .300's suck less but then you are dealing with much more expensive ammo that is much harder to source, and when dealing with subsonics, it's basically .45 acp anyways.

 

[Whistler]

First person shot that complains about the ammo can have another free of charge.

 

[reddog]

Considering the what, millions? 9mm has killed in several world wars and beyond I think in a SHTF situation that ball ammo will work just fine, it's all about punching holes, lots of them.

 

[alanwk]

Considering the what, millions? 9mm has killed in several world wars and beyond I think in a SHTF situation that ball ammo will work just fine, it's all about punching holes, lots of them.

What weight do you prefer? I mean the bullet weight.

 

[reddog]

I load and shoot a lot of 124 gr, just cause, no other reason.

 

[Otto_Mation]

I load and shoot a lot of 124 gr, just cause, no other reason.

Yep that is the Nato round. But use any weight round that you like and follow @Whistler 's advice above, it's all going to hurt.

 

[Johnny Diamond]

Get what you can, price or availability be damned, think an intruder ever laughed cause a home owner used quail or target loads in their 12 gauge for a head or chest shot down the hall or across a room?
Just make holes and cause red wet leaks.



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[oldag]

I would not have any 9 mm at all.

Plenty of .45 ACP in ball and JHP.