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  • Acera

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    Just because it was technically a correct call in the eyes of the rules and the ruling officials did not make it the right call.

    I was surprised how much sports talk today has covered this, both national and local. I am sure the NFL appreciates the fact that the majority of the discussion on social media, radio, TV is about how their officiating is the focus of another game changing moment, and not the players and plays. This has tarnished yet another outstanding weekend of football, and shifted focus away from the games on the schedule for next week.

    The beating the suits at the NFL have taken this year is just about all of their own doing.
     

    Renegade

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    none of what you described was a football move. It was the process of the catch.

    The catch was over when he came down with control of the ball and two feet in-bounds. Everything after that is advancing the ball after the catch. The rule about football move only applies if the receiver is falling to the ground in the act of catching the pass. He was not falling as he landed 1-2 feet like a normal catch and took yet another step upfield to get to goal line.

    If he came down with leg, arm, hip, shoulder, butt, etc being the first to hit ground, that is falling and the football move applies.

    Though when a player turns 90 degrees upfield, starts taking steps upfield, lunges, and extends his formerly closed arms to reach for extra yardage, I do not see how anybody can think that is not a football move. It happens on almost every play of the game.

    Football Move:

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    Football Move:

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    Apparently not a football move:

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    Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1:
    “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”

    Example of when rule applies - note receiver does not come down feet first:

    http://video.businessinsider.com/7d125e78-f114-40ba-967b-e82e527320fd.mp4
     
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    Renegade

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    The beating the suits at the NFL have taken this year is just about all of their own doing.

    It has been a tough season for the NFL, from DV to bad replays. Replay was supposed to fix errors, not make them.

    One problem is the home team controls the replay that is shown on the Jumbotron, helping the coaching staff decide whether or not they should challenge.

    NFL needs to decide if that really should be part of "home field advantage".
     
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    Saltyag2010

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    The catch was never under control. A football move only comes into consideration after the act of catching.

    This was my point. This is why the officials saw it this way.

    Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1:
    “If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”

    Here's what Dean Blandino said - Bryant going to the ground. By rule he must hold onto it throughout entire process of contacting the ground. He didn't so it is incomplete.3:21 PM - 11 Jan 2015

     

    Renegade

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    The catch was never under control.

    He had control before he hit ground. Caught it with both hands, tucked it away and transfered it to one hand as is typical move. Professionals player accomplish this in their sleep in 1/10 of second. If you do not see that, then we disagree on what happened and I understand why you think it was not a catch.

    Here's what Dean Blandino said - Bryant going to the ground. By rule he must hold onto it throughout entire process of contacting the ground. He didn't so it is incomplete.3:21 PM - 11 Jan 2015

    Again that only applies if he "goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass". He did not go to the ground in the act of catching the pass. He landed on two feet inbounds in the act of catching the pass. He then ran for endzone, and stubbed his foot and tripped himself up, so he dove for the endzone. All taking place AFTER the catch. Had he not stubbed his toe, he would not have gone down. RECAP: he went down as a result of the stubbed step, not the act of catching the pass. Whether he takes 1 step for 3 yards or 10 steps for 30 yards after that before losing football for whatever reason (stub step), does not undo the valid catch.
     
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    Saltyag2010

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    Pulling the ball in with two hands and tucking it into one arm isn't a catch? Ok. Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification...
    No. Pulling it in with two hands is a catch. Bobbling it and it coming out after it hits the turf isn't a catch.

    I'm sorry if you're too much of a fan to see what's going on or maybe you didn't see it clearly for other reasons.

    One catch or drop with minutes left doesn't win or lose a game. A call in that time wouldn't lose or win a game either. Playing better and scoring more wins games. Green Bay scored more points and Dallas let them take the lead. They gave up that game not the officials.
     

    Hoji

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    I am kind of shocked anyone would give a damn about 22 ( starters) people who would not bother to pour a glass of water on you if you were on fire.
     

    Renegade

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    I am kind of shocked anyone would give a damn about 22 ( starters) people who would not bother to pour a glass of water on you if you were on fire.

    We don't.

    We are discussing the application of a rule in NFL Football. Entire books have been written making up hypothetical plays for discussion on how rules apply. No different than discussing for 87th time if you can carry in a hospital.
     
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