Open Carry Options

[ZX9RCAM]

Aren't both of these designed to attach to/on/over a belt, making them belt holsters?
Curious minds... and good questions!

Initial obvious response would be "Yes".
But, obvious isn't always "right", in everybody's view, lol....

 

[bones_708]

I suppose we'll wait for a court to decide. Several police departments/DA's stated that drop-leg holsters would NOT meet the requirement set forth in the law, which plainly states "belt or shoulder holster." Others said they're fine.

Who, because I haven't seen even hersay that actually names a Dept.

 

[bones_708]

All you have to do is go back and look at our member who spent $5k just to prove he was doing something perfectly legal and written in black and white.


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I don't think that is the same situation. Not saying you might want to be careful but honestly the knife thing was a mistake in the language of the law and was not meant by the legislature to effect the legality of knives. If you asked the people who passed the law they would have thought that knife was illegal. On looking and going over the exact language then it looks obvious that it was legal but there were no "law enforcement" updates because again it wasn't intended to make any changes to laws on carrying knives. Here there is little argument on either language or intent. They didn't want guns just stuck in the waistband, no guns hanging from a lanyard, no guns carried by hand.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I don't think that is the same situation. Not saying you might want to be careful but honestly the knife thing was a mistake in the language of the law and was not meant by the legislature to effect the legality of knives. If you asked the people who passed the law they would have thought that knife was illegal. On looking and going over the exact language then it looks obvious that it was legal but there were no "law enforcement" updates because again it wasn't intended to make any changes to laws on carrying knives. Here there is little argument on either language or intent. They didn't want guns just stuck in the waistband, no guns hanging from a lanyard, no guns carried by hand.

What about hanging from a lanyard while in a belt holster?

 

[bones_708]

What about hanging from a lanyard while in a belt holster?

If it's being worn in a belt holster then it's not hanging from a lanyard. If it is hanging then I would consider it a safety hazard regardless of whether it's in a holster or not. I due believe that unsafe carry is what the holster law was intended to curb.

 

[Mreed911]

If it's being worn in a belt holster then it's not hanging from a lanyard. If it is hanging then I would consider it a safety hazard regardless of whether it's in a holster or not. I due believe that unsafe carry is what the holster law was intended to curb.

Lanyard from belt to holster, through belt loops on holster, dangling.

Or, in a belt holster in my hand, by the grip.

Firearm is carried "in a belt or shoulder holster."

Black-letter legal. Right?

 

[bones_708]

Lanyard from belt to holster, through belt loops on holster, dangling.

Or, in a belt holster in my hand, by the grip.

Firearm is carried "in a belt or shoulder holster."

Black-letter legal. Right?

No.

 

[SC-Texas]

And costly for defendants.


No offense, but your fun comes often comes at a steep price. Saying that it's easily beaten in court really isn't all that encouraging for someone like me.

All you have to do is go back and look at our member who spent $5k just to prove he was doing something perfectly legal and written in black and white.


Sent from my HAL 9000

Very true and no offense taken. But I am right on this one.

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[SC-Texas]

So, does this mean that "paddle" holsters are not legal for OC? No belt loops, belt not even needed to fit over a waist band.

Legal. If worn on a belt.

Illegal if stuck in the waste.

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[SC-Texas]

Unfortunately, this forces me to question whether I would be allowed to OC with my "clip-on" IWB holster?
Obviously, only the part above the waistline would be exposed.

Legal.

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[SC-Texas]

Here is a good one

Guy came by the shop with a dog. The dog was wearing a custom holster with a pistol attached. Dog, pistol and holster were all black. If he gets stopped

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[ZX9RCAM]

Legal.

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Thank you.

 

[Mreed911]

No.

Why? What's the violation?

 

[bones_708]

Why? What's the violation?

Already covered

 

[Mreed911]

Wait, so I can't put an IWB holster inside my sweat pants then cinch them up really tight with the drawstring around my belly button to hold everything in unless I wear a belt over them, even though they don't have belt loops?

Damn. How am I supposed to get my boxers to show if I have to wear my sweats that high and still can't open carry, partially?

 

[Mreed911]

Already covered

So you have no answer?

It's "in a belt or shoulder holster." What's the violation?

 

[mardad]

If draw string is cloth or leather..... You are GTG, Mreed911

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tr.v. belt·ed, belt·ing, belts1. To equip, support, or attach with a belt: belt one's trousers; belted the sword to her waist.
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[Mreed911]

If draw string is cloth or leather..... You are GTG, Mreed911

Woohoo! Reagan style, here I come!

 

[SC-Texas]

Wait, so I can't put an IWB holster inside my sweat pants then cinch them up really tight with the drawstring around my belly button to hold everything in unless I wear a belt over them, even though they don't have belt loops?

Damn. How am I supposed to get my boxers to show if I have to wear my sweats that high and still can't open carry, partially?

I don't think you can. No belt.

It's absurd in many ways.

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[SC-Texas]

Her ya go.



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