Texas Law Shield users

[cbigclarke]

I did manage to finally find one story about TLS: Texas Law Shield protects gun owners | News - Home. Interesting timing, judging by the story byline timestamp. Also interesting that a successful use of TLS services were related, without any attribution of course. I also found the story itself fascinating:

"We've had a client in the back of the squad car call the emergency hotline as he was being taken to jail and our attorney worked with the client in the car ride and eventually the officer turned around and figured the member was correct and turned around and dropped him off," said Evans, offering one example of how the program helps.
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Perhaps police procedures have changed, or are different in Texas, and please, any LEOs chime in here, but according to my family members who are cops, arrested folks don't generally get to use their cell phones in the back of the car. Especially on a weapons violation. Nor have have free hands available to operate them. I have also never, ever heard of an LEO changing his mind after an arrest and while driving to jail. It's not impossible of course, it just strikes me as let's say unusual.

the only way that's happening is a small town...population 8

 

[inceptor]

Good article. Has anyone used them for a trust?

 

[V-Tach]

One of their representatives stopped in this week and inquired about addressing our classes. We passed, but we have been telling folks about them and now have some brochures available if they are interested.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

How did somebody in the back of a squad car use their phone.
Aren't people normally cuffed?

 

[CitizenSeven]

How did somebody in the back of a squad car use their phone.
Aren't people normally cuffed?

That's what I thought, and particularly on a weapons violation. It had to be a weapons violation of some kind since that is all TLS covers, more particularly a CHL violation. So, the story is more-or-less: someone got arrested for having/using a concealed weapon. They were arrested, but not cuffed, and allowed to use their cell phone in the back of the squad car presumably on speaker since the LEO was eventually persuaded by the TLS attorney on the phone that his/her client had done nothing wrong. The LEO then unarrested the suspect and drove him home.

I must say, I'm a bit incredulous at that, but I'm a cynical bastard with no trust in his heart and an agenda of some kind, so what do I know.

 

[GRAYWOLF]

Well, the article never actually states that the guy was arrested, only that he was in the back of a police car. He may have been placed there without being arrested and cuffed for "protection" reasons.
It does, however, sound like they had left the scene, which I would think would only happen after an arrest was made (unless it was a courtesy transport), but I am not a LEO!

 

[CitizenSeven]

You're right, they didn't use the term "arrested". However, they did say:

We've had a client in the back of the squad car call the emergency hotline as he was being taken to jail​

Perhaps I'm missing a distinction, but under what conditions would someone:

1. Be in the back of a squad car
2. In the process of being transported to jail (note not the station for questioning, or similar)
3. Feel the need to contact a lawyer about his predicament
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And not be arrested? Maybe I read something into their statement that isn't there, but I don't see a scenario where all three of those conditions apply and the person is not under arrest.

 

[Charlie]

I'm amazed at all the "SWAGs" people on the internet come up with. All the info about where he was, where he was going, what his status was, etc. is at best, hearsay, (information gathered by one person from another person concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience), if not just some unknown, slack-jawed, knuckle-dragging, one toothed, toe headed, shit-for-brains bystander.

 

[Barry Green]

Why not ask the people who actually have the answers? Asking us will do no good because we don't know. CitizenSeven, you said you signed up for the service, right? So ask them! They will take your call. They are your lawyers. They are on retainer. Ask em.

 

[winchster]

Why not ask the people who actually have the answers? Asking us will do no good because we don't know. CitizenSeven, you said you signed up for the service, right? So ask them! They will take your call. They are your lawyers. They are on retainer. Ask em.

Nah, that'd be too easy.

 

[CitizenSeven]

Well, I assumed the spokesman for TLS accurately relayed the story provided by the attorney who took the call. The likelihood of the offered anecdote is another matter.

 

[CitizenSeven]

Nah, that'd be too easy.

I did ask them for a list of lawyers in their network. They wouldn't give me any names for lawyers in Texas other than the primary ones listed on their site and based in Houston, rather merely stating "numerous local counsel around the State". I guess you don't get to find out until you need one. Shrug.

 

[Charlie]

I did ask them for a list of lawyers in their network. They wouldn't give me any names for lawyers in Texas other than the primary ones listed on their site and based in Houston, rather merely stating "numerous local counsel around the State". I guess you don't get to find out until you need one. Shrug.

My advice would be for you to NOT use the TLS program. Since you don't like it, can't find the information you're looking for, and won't take any of the advice given, etc., etc., I've come to the conclusion you would never be satisfied with TLS. Find another service.

 

[CitizenSeven]

Of course. Since this thread started with someone seeking information on TLS, and since independent information about their service is difficult to come by, I figured I'd share what little I've been able to find these past few days. Not much, admittedly, but certainly much more than I knew two weeks ago, most of it independently verifiable and, I think, of some interest to those on the fence about the efficacy of this service.

 

[Angeleyes]

i plan on getting the year membership before i start carrying. The rep was very helpful at the chl class

 

[vmax]

If I ever have to use my weapon to defend myself and I feel, I'm about to be GZ'd, .. my plan is to move to Idaho build a cabin on a mountain top and just be left alone.....hey, someone already tried that..

 

[Shotgun Jeremy]

I posted this in another thread, but I might as well share it here in case anyone wants to look back on this thread in the future.

We had a local CHL instructor get busted for not properly teaching his classes...amongst other things. So one of the ladies that took his class contacted Texas Law Shield and they're taking care of her with legal advice for now and representation if it gets to that.

 

[txinvestigator]

Holy Thread resurrection, Batman.

Speaking of Batman, Yvonne Craig, who played Batgirl in the original series, died on the 17th.

 

[sublimaze1]

Hello.

New member. New (as soon as the prints clear) LTC licensee.

I have read (to the best of my ability) the posts about TLS and its "iffy" status, "scam" labeling, and other assigned monikers. Please know that I do not subscribe to any of these and that I am eager to learn more before I pay my hard earned cash into a service.

My sister in law is currently doing a search (she is a lawyer) to uncover any cases that have gone before judges using this service. If anyone knows of any, please let me know.

But (and in closing) if anyone has any hard fact examples of such cases, I would like to know. Incidentally, my TLS rep was sick during my class, so we didn't hear them speak.

Regards
WJ

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Welcome to the Forum!
Please let us know what your SIL comes up with